would heat be better without wade?

[Mass Debator]

this. Wade gets tossed around between the bench and court anyway

Well, I had a different angle in what I say saying. What he's doing now is similar to him commanding the second unit like a "sixth man" would. There's no need to change what's already working because he already have chunks of time without Lebron.

[Flash31]

Is Wade really this underrated?

Most underrated player in the league
Tony Parker is as well

LeBron stans discredit him and Heat haters hate him

a sg avg almost 20,5,5 on 53% with 1+steals,and 0.6 blocks so yeah

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Well, I had a different angle in what I say saying. What he's doing now is similar to him commanding the second unit like a "sixth man" would. There's no need to change what's already working because he already have chunks of time without Lebron.

hes already used like a sixth men.
gets benched with 4 or 5 mins left in the first. starts the second quater. get benched with 6-7 minutes in the quater and then often plays the last 2-3 minutes.
why not have him come in at 4 or 5 minutes left in the first, getting some rythm playing off lebron, then taking over when lebron sits and when hes hot let him finish the half or bring him back with 3 minutes left or something.
Wade is someone you can always throw in there and he has a huge impact but with LeBron on the floor these two sometimes cancel each other out.
LeBron and the Heat are at their best with crazy spacing by 3 pt shooters.
why not try to start the games like that and bring Wade in at a later 4-5 minutes mark or earlier if the shots arent falling.
but whatever, Spobot knows best

[Mass Debator]

hes already used like a sixth men.
gets benched with 4 or 5 mins left in the first. starts the second quater. get benched with 6-7 minutes in the quater and then often plays the last 2-3 minutes.
why not have him come in at 4 or 5 minutes left in the first, getting some rythm playing off lebron, then taking over when lebron sits and when hes hot let him finish the half or bring him back with 3 minutes left or something.
Wade is someone you can always throw in there and he has a huge impact but with LeBron on the floor these two sometimes cancel each other out.
LeBron and the Heat are at their best with crazy spacing by 3 pt shooters.
why not try to start the games like that and bring Wade in at a later 4-5 minutes mark or earlier if the shots arent falling.
but whatever, Spobot knows best

Well, not gonna lie, Wade has an ego that needs to be stroked. He needs the player introduction.

But I honestly don't see what's wrong with what they're doing now. Lebron ends the quarter with 3 point shooters and during that time, the opposition would be over the foul limit or close to it for Lebron to attack and get free-throws. Wade starts the second fresh and does whatever he wants to. Them starting together has its benefits too. If they're in a groove, they can just blow out teams early.

[aj1987]

but whatever, Spobot knows best

Yeah. He does. What he knows won them 3 trips to the Finals and 2 rings.

[Bigsmoke]

no

[Trollsmasher]

Most underrated player in the league
Tony Parker is as well

LeBron stans discredit him and Heat haters hate him

a sg avg almost 20,5,5 on 53% with 1+steals,and 0.6 blocks so yeah

playing 2/3 of the games

Right now it is really just about the faith different people have in him and his health. I have almost no doubt that he will break down in the playoffs again, but other people see it differently

[secund2nun]

Replace wade with asik plus an okay spot up shooter. Do heat get better?

Miami would be a lot better if this happened.

[secund2nun]

with regards to the bolded.

Use a traditional big, and you destroy Miami's spacing. If the guy isn't quick on his feet, it'll hurt Miami's defensive scheme.

A traditional big would make Miami a million times better. The rebounding, post defense, and even post scoring would be a lot better. Currently Miami is a pathetic rebounding and post defending team.

Also replacing Wade with Asik and a good shooting SG would keep spacing equal. Remember Miami does not play a center much because they don't really have one, but look at how good Birdman is for Miami....Asik would be scary on Miami.

[secund2nun]

No, it'll allow them to play a normal defense. They play this retarded shit only because they don't have a center.

+1

Miami's current system is trash.

[aj1987]

+1

Miami's current system is trash.

And yet they've been to 3 Finals and won 2 in a row.

[secund2nun]

And yet they've been to 3 Finals and won 2 in a row.

That's because they have prime Lebron, Bosh, and Wade. And let's be real Miami was very lucky to win last year. Having a hole at center in year 4 is unacceptable. Riley made a huge mistake refusing to trade for Orlando's center when he had the chance. Talk about overvaluing Cole and Chalmers, both mediocre easily replaceable players.

[aj1987]

That's because they have prime Lebron, Bosh, and Wade. And let's be real Miami was very lucky to win last year. Having a hole at center in year 4 is unacceptable. Riley made a huge mistake refusing to trade for Orlando's center when he had the chance. Talk about overvaluing Cole and Chalmers, both mediocre easily replaceable players.

Wade was far from his prime (not to mention injured) last playoffs and Bosh played like shit. Although LeBron had a terrific playoff run, it wasn't an all time great performance or anything. Still, Miami won. I do believe that Miami needs a better rebounder, but Miami NEEDS Wade's and Bosh's (help) defense. Both are just as untradable as LeBron. Also, why would you want to fix something that is not broken? Miami's main problem is age. We need to get rid of Allen, Battier, Lewis, and a couple of others. Get young players in. The lack of speed is what kills us most of the time. Just imagine last seasons playoffs with regular season Wade and Bosh. Miami would've gone 16-4.

[Solefade]

Wade is underrated? why is his health so overlooked then? and why do people pretend like he's been having amazing playoff runs the past 2 years when clearly he hasn't?

we all know what wade can do when he's healthy but that's a big question mark

[secund2nun]

Wade was far from his prime (not to mention injured) last playoffs and Bosh played like shit. Although LeBron had a terrific playoff run, it wasn't an all time great performance or anything. Still, Miami won. I do believe that Miami needs a better rebounder, but Miami NEEDS Wade's and Bosh's (help) defense. Both are just as untradable as LeBron. Also, why would you want to fix something that is not broken? Miami's main problem is age. We need to get rid of Allen, Battier, Lewis, and a couple of others. Get young players in. The lack of speed is what kills us most of the time. Just imagine last seasons playoffs with regular season Wade and Bosh. Miami would've gone 16-4.

I am not arguing that if you took Wade off and replaced him with nothing that Miami would improve, but that if you replaced him and his salary with other players Miami would be better than they are now. Wade and Lebron are just not an ideal fit together because of spacing issues and how the hole at center is not addressed. Not to mention Wade has been banged up the last 2 playoff runs, has missed nearly 25 games so far this season and is only gonna get older. I know Miami won't get rid of Wade, but I am just arguing they would be a lot better with some other players instead of wade. Imagine if Miami had Noah instead of Wade- Miami would be much improved.

Well it's about improving. This Miami team, with a legit center, would steamroll every NBA team including the Spurs and Pacers. Wade and Lebron simply do not fit together well enough on offense to ever get the best out of them on offense and because of the big salary devote on the wing players and stretch PF Bosh Miami doesn't have much money to improve at center.

Simply put I honestly believe a trio of Asik-Bosh-Lebron would be a lot better than the current big 3. The heat are a massively flawed team structure wise (no center, Wade and Lebron aren't good fits). A defensive anchor like Asik would transform the Miami defense and rebounding.