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    Default Re: Rewards of the tank:2014 off-season!

    He believed in players earning their playing time, in working hard to get better, and teaching young guys to play the right way. More than anything else, Ty was praised by the Jazz front office for being a good man.
    And fans hated him for it.

    Ty is survived by his assistants Brad Jones and Alex Jensen.
    So only these two are retained? Jerry's son-in-law of course!

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    Tony Jones: Boylen and Lindsey are close, share the same agent and he fits the profile. Obviously the downside to JB is his tenure with the Utes Twitter @Tjonessltrib

    Jody Genessy: Intriguing Jazz head coach replacements: Mike Longabardi, Alex Jensen, Brad Jones, Fred Hoiberg, Ettore Messina, Andy Greer, among others. Twitter @DJJazzyJody

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    Ettore Messina has emerged as a strong candidate to become the next head coach of the Utah Jazz.

    Messina is currently head coach at CSKA and spent one season as an assistant for Mike Brown with the Los Angeles Lakers.

    The Jazz announced on Monday that they would not renew the contract of Ty Corbin.

    Jim Boylen is also a candidate, but his rough stint at the University of Utah could make selling his hire on the local fans difficult.
    As bad as college coaches have been in the NBA You got to wonder how a European coach would do.

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    Isaiah Austin has announced his decision to declare for the 2014 NBA Draft.

    Austin returned to Baylor for his sophomore season after a shoulder injury.

    Austin is a 7-foot center currently projected to go early in the second round by Draft Express.
    Could be there for the Jazz's 2nd round pick

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    Damien Inglis will declare for the 2014 NBA Draft.

    Inglis recently participated in the Nike Hoop Summit with the World Team.

    Several NBA scouts have told Yahoo Sports they are most attracted by Inglis' defensive ability.

    Inglis said he has no NBA buyout with Chorale de Roanne Basket. DraftExpress.com projects him as the 32nd overall pick in this year's draft. Inglis said if he isn't comfortable with his potential draft position he might take his name out by the June 16 deadline.

    "I want to develop my game with a good team who is very interested and focused on me," Inglis told Yahoo Sports. "I want to play in the league next year but it depends. I don't really want [to] take my name out."
    early 2nd next year

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    K.J. McDaniels averaged 17.1 points, 7.1 rebounds, 1.6 assists and 2.7 blocks in 33.7 minutes per game last season.
    mid late 1st

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    Former University of Utah coach Jim Boylen has emerged as an early, potential candidate for the job. Boylen is currently the lead assistant for the San Antonio Spurs and is close to Lindsey, going back to their days together with the Houston Rockets. The two also share the same agent.

    Another name that has surfaced is Phoenix Suns assistant Mike Longabardi, who is credited with turning the Suns into a credible team on the defensive end.

    Other potentially available coaches include George Karl, Jeff Van Gundy, Lionel Hollins, Byron Scott and Stan Van Gundy.
    Scott's a new one. Was born in Utah.

    [QUOTE]Lindsey said his search will be wide open and thorough. He made it clear, however, that the new coach will be tasked with upgrading a defense that finished at or near the bottom of the NBA in almost all major categories.

    Which way Lindsey will go? Will he hire a proven veteran like Hollins? Or will he go with a younger coach like Longabardi? Will he stay within the confines of the NBA? Or will he look at the college ranks for someone like Iowa State

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    Lindsey left open the possibility of Corbin returning to the organization in some capacity.

    "I don't want to speak for Ty and understand his range of emotions, from disappointment to anger to everything in between, but (he's) a good man who was a very good player, very good assistant that led us well through a tough three-plus years where there was significant change of personnel," Lindsey said. "So, I wouldn't rule anything out, just because he's that high of character.
    Doubt that happens anytime soon.

    "And I'll say this, as well: I think Ty is ... going to be a better coach or is potentially going to be a better head coach for his experience, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him land on his feet to be a head coach and to do very well going forward. If that doesn't happen and he were to want to come back in some fashion, I don't think there's anybody within the organization that would prevent that."

    Owner and CEO Greg Miller said in a statement that Corbin "has always represented the Jazz franchise in a first-class manner both on the court and in the community. He did a wonderful job of building relationships with the players and encouraged their growth throughout the season."

    After jettisoning veteran salaries last summer, the Jazz started 1-14 amid injury woes, but improved as the season progressed. Rookie point guard Trey Burke started the season on the bench with a broken finger, pressed through a shooting slump and ended with a season-high 32 points in the final game. He averaged 12.8 points and 5.7 assists.

    Despite the losses, the team never splintered. Players pointed to Corbin's positivity and the veteran influence of Marvin Williams and Richard Jefferson, who resurrected his career, shooting 41 percent from 3-point range and scoring 10.1 points after rarely playing at Golden State last year.

    A lottery pick, another first-round choice and sizeable salary cap flexibility will benefit the Jazz and Corbin's successor this offseason. And there's plenty of promise in Enes Kanter, Derrick Favors and Alec Burks. The two big men improved in all statistical areas. Burks became a go-to scorer and ended up as the second-leading scorer despite playing as a reserve most of the season.
    Only those 3 show promise?

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    [QUOTE]"Literally we haven

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    Lindsey's imprint was obvious in the deal that brought Trey Burke.
    Believe Ty was pushing for that actually. That was a no brainer. They should have had a young pg the two previous years.

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    If George hadn’t still been available for the Jazz to take, this grade would be more like a B+. The fact is, however, the No. 1 player in that draft (at least judging after four seasons) was available to the Jazz and they didn’t take him.

    A few data points in comparing Hayward and George at this point in their careers:

    • Complexsports.com recently (Feb. 24) ranked the 25 best players in the NBA. They had George at No. 3, behind only Kevin Durant and LeBron James.

    • This season, George finished 13th in the NBA with player impact estimate of 15.7 (Durant and James were No .1 and No. 2), while Hayward scored an 11.2 (the exact same as Jimmer Fredette, coincidentally), which was the second-best score on the Jazz behind Derrick Favors and just inside the top 100 in the league.

    • In John Hollinger’s player efficiency rating, George finished at No. 26 with a rating of 20.16, while Hayward finished tied for the No. 98 spot with a 16.22.

    • In Hollinger’s estimated wins added stat, George finished at No. 15 with a score of 13.9, while Hayward finished at No. 46 with an 8.0.

    • In do-overs of the 2010 draft I found online, Hayward was selected anywhere from No. 6 to No. 11, while George was most often taken No. 1 and never slipped past No. 2.

    The facts would seem to indicate at this point that the Jazz could have landed a top-20 (maybe even top-10 or top-5) NBA player in George but instead got a top-100 (maybe top-50) player in Hayward. Considering that the Jazz, like all pro sports teams, invest heavily to make sure they get their draft picks right, taking Hayward over George looks like a pretty big strike for the franchise.
    Many other teams passed on George too.

    The Jazz did well in selecting Evans in the second round, as he looks to have established himself as a player worthy of a rotation spot on an NBA roster — something most second-round picks do not accomplish in the NBA. Of all 60 players selected in the 2010 NBA draft that have played at least 2,000 minutes, Evans has the second-best career win shares per 48 minutes at .143, behind only George’s .149.

    Grade on 2010 NBA draft: C+ (though still somewhat to be determined)
    Mostly garbage time before this year for Jeremy though.

    Trade of Deron Williams

    It’s clear the Jazz made the right choice in trading Williams when and how they did. He was never going to lead the Jazz to a championship.

    This season, according to Hollinger, Favors at the age of 22 had a PER of 19.01 (No. 44 in the NBA) and an EWA of 9.2. (No. 36). Williams at the age of 29 had a PER of 17.69 (No. 64) and an EWA of 6.9 (No. 65).

    So, at least by some measures, it seems Favors is already a more valuable player than Williams, so even if the 2011 trade had just been a straight Williams/Favors swap, it could be considered a positive for the Jazz, especially considering the age and salary differences.

    Factor in the two additional first-round picks, which ended up being a No. 3 in 2012 and a No. 27 in 2013, and the Jazz made out like bandits. Perhaps they could have used those picks more wisely, but that’s a different step to evaluate later on.

    Grade on Williams trade: A+
    Bullshit! They took the 2nd offer on the table and no other teams knew he was even available. Who cares what they got. Did they maximize what they have got?

    Making Tyrone Corbin head coach in 2011

    Considering that Sloan’s longtime assistant Phil Johnson decided to quit with him in 2011, the Jazz did the right thing giving Tyrone Corbin the job. Corbin had been watching and learning from Sloan and Johnson for seven years, and was considered a hot up-and-coming coaching prospect.

    Looking back now, it’s impossible to know who the Jazz might have appointed midseason instead that would have done a better job long term. Even Jeff Hornacek, a strong candidate for the NBA Coach of the Year award for the unbelievable job he’s done in his first season with the Phoenix Suns, was only a part-time shooting coach for the Jazz at the time. It would have been crazy for the Jazz to promote Hornacek instead of Corbin to head coach in 2011. Interestingly, it was Corbin that made the decision to bring Hornacek on as a full-time assistant coach after he was promoted.

    Grade for promoting Corbin: B+
    He had been interviewed for other jobs. It made perfect sense. He's been in a bad spot all along.

    Handling of Corbin after he was named head coach in February 2011

    When Corbin was promoted following Sloan’s resignation, the Jazz made it clear they did not view it as merely an interim promotion, but as a long-term hire. They quickly gave Corbin a three-year contract to remain head coach of the franchise.

    Owner Greg Miller said at the time: “I am confident that Tyrone is the right man to lead this team into the future. He is someone with longstanding ties to the Jazz and this community, and who has embraced the core philosophies and ideals this organization holds true. I feel that his character and leadership qualities will be true assets to the Jazz moving forward for many years to come.”

    General manager Kevin O’Connor said: “He is ready for this job and we feel certain he will excel as a head coach just as he excelled as an assistant coach and as a player.”

    Judging by these words of Miller and O’Connor, Corbin’s tenure as the Jazz’s head coach has to be viewed as a disappointment.

    Looking back, the mistake the Jazz made was signing Corbin through the 2013-14 season. Jazz management should have had the foresight to recognize that a major rebuilding season was possible in 2013-14 — given the player contracts set to expire before that season — and therefore should have only signed Corbin through 2012-13.
    What they probably already knew was that Deron was going to be dealt.

    Instead, the Jazz ended up putting their coach and players in an awkward situation and allowed Hornacek, one of the most promising basketball coaches in the world today, to walk out the door to Phoenix.

    Who could have known Hornacek would be such a good head coach?
    Anyone with a clue! His dad was a coach. he was like another coach o the floor. Not surprising at all.

    Not me. As an outsider I was fully on the Corbin bandwagon. But Jazz management gets paid a lot of money to have such inclinations.

    Grade for long-term handling of Corbin: D+

    2011 NBA draft

    The Jazz, still with O’Connor as general manager, went into the 2011 draft with picks No. 3 and No. 12, which they used to select Enes Kanter and Alec Burks. Despite being the third pick overall, however, Kanter is 19th in most minutes of players from the 2011 draft. Burks is just ahead of him at No. 18 in minutes played. At this point it seems the Jazz are unsure, at best, of what they have in Kanter and Burks.

    We’ll never know how the Jazz might have been able to use these draft picks in trades, so all we can really do is look at what other players they could have drafted.

    As already mentioned, 17 players from this draft have played more minutes thus far than Kanter or Burks. Players the Jazz could have drafted include: Klay Thompson, Kawhi Leonard, Kenneth Faried, Kemba Walker, Nikola Vucevic, Chandler Parsons, Jimmy Butler, Reggie Jackson and Markieff Morris.

    Regardless of whom the Jazz might have picked, it’s doubtful they would have played them enough minutes for us to know whether they’re any better than Kanter or Burks right now.

    Grade for 2011 draft: C (though largely still to be determined)
    Again so ould other teams. Kanter and Burks are good. Remains to be seen how that draft or any of these drafts shake out still.

    Hiring Dennis Lindsey as general manager in August 2012

    As of yet, Lindsey has not had the time to earn the trust or distrust of Jazz fans. That certainly won’t be the case much longer, given the summer the Jazz have ahead of them.

    Grade for hiring Lindsey: To be determined
    If he really could have had a #1 pick for Marvin he should be fired!

    Decision to let Jefferson and Millsap leave for nothing

    In February of 2013, the Jazz chose to let the trade deadline pass without making any trades, a puzzling move to many fans and NBA insiders considering the quality of the players and contracts the Jazz had available — Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap being at the top of the list.

    Instead, Jefferson and Millsap left the organization as free agents following the season, netting the Jazz nothing in return except cap space.

    Dennis Lindsey admitted after the deadline that the Jazz were “very” popular in trade talks but declined to mention any specifics. Without knowing what was on the table for the Jazz in trade offers, it’s impossible to fully evaluate the decision to stand pat.

    Having said that, I feel comfortable in saying there must have been a way the Jazz could have pulled at least one decent long-term asset in exchange for Jefferson and Millsap, but they failed to do so.

    Grade for 2013 trade deadline: C-
    They did. The GS deal doesn't happen if they take on other contracts for Millsap and Jefferson. Letting guys go in fa isn't getting nothing the way the NBA works. Get tired of hearing that. We don't know what they could have got or if it would have been better. Bringing back Millsap and Demarre would have been the thing to do in my opinion but I'm the only one in that camp.
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    [QUOTE]2013 NBA draft

    The Jazz made a move to trade up and nab Trey Burke with the 9th pick. Interestingly, there is potential for this draft to end up looking very similar to the 2010 draft for the Jazz

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    Clint Capela officially declared for the 2014 NBA Draft. The Swiss forward is averaging 9.6 points, 7.4 rebounds, 1.2 assists and 1.8 blocks in Pro A while in Eurocup he scored 11.2 points with 6.5 rebounds per game. Sportando
    mid first

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    Jody Genessy: Jazz president Randy Rigby said team's "exhaustive" coaching search will include 20-plus candidates during an interview on 1280. Twitter @DJJazzyJody
    That's a lot of candidates! More than have been rumored so far so it will be interesting to see who else makes the list.

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    Marc Stein: NBA coaching sources have identified another prime candidate for the Utah Jazz opening: Hawks assistant Quin Snyder Twitter @ESPNSteinLine

    Marc Stein: Snyder worked w/Jazz GM Dennis Lindsey in San Antonio and, interestingly, spent a season w/CSKA Moscow studying Lindsey pal Ettore Messina Twitter @ESPNSteinLine

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