BS: "Wilt is the most dominant scorer ever"

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wilt's regular season scoring stats

1959-60: 37.6 ppg on 32.1 fga, 13.8 fta
1960-61: 38.4 ppg on 31.1 fga, 13.3 fta
1961-62: 50.4 ppg on 39.5 fga, 17.0 fta
1962-63: 44.8 ppg on 34.6 fga, 13.9 fta
1963-64: 36.9 ppg on 28.7 fga, 12.7 fta
1964-65: 34.7 ppg on 28.5 fga, 12.1 fta
1965-66: 33.5 ppg on 25.2 fga, 12.4 fta

How is this the "most dominant scorer ever" again?

Imagine if Shaq or Kareem got that many touches in the post and were able to face such little defensive attention that they could average over 30 fga per game or even 40 fga.

We all know that MJ, KAJ, Shaq, Hakeem, Kobe, Bran, West, Baylor, Oscar, Dirk, ect are all better scorers in the playoffs than Wilt so I'm not going to mention the playoffs.

[r0drig0lac]

[deja vu]

[G-train]

Imagine if......

That's the problem. He actually did it. So it doesn't matter what you imagine.

[LAZERUSS]

Wilt's regular season scoring stats

1959-60: 37.6 ppg on 32.1 fga, 13.8 fta
1960-61: 38.4 ppg on 31.1 fga, 13.3 fta
1961-62: 50.4 ppg on 39.5 fga, 17.0 fta
1962-63: 44.8 ppg on 34.6 fga, 13.9 fta
1963-64: 36.9 ppg on 28.7 fga, 12.7 fta
1964-65: 34.7 ppg on 28.5 fga, 12.1 fta
1965-66: 33.5 ppg on 25.2 fga, 12.4 fta

How is this the "most dominant scorer ever" again?

Imagine if Shaq or Kareem got that many touches in the post and were able to face such little defensive attention that they could average over 30 fga per game or even 40 fga.

We all know that MJ, KAJ, Shaq, Hakeem, Kobe, Bran, West, Baylor, Oscar, Dirk, ect are all better scorers in the playoffs than Wilt so I'm not going to mention the playoffs.

Don't forget Wilt's 66-67 season, then, either, when he averaged 24 ppg on 14 FGAs per game. Had that Chamberlain been given even 30 FGAs, he would have shattered his own 50.4 ppg record.

Oh, and how about a '73 Wilt, who averaged 13 ppg on 7 FGAs. Give that Chamberlain 28 FGAs, and he would have averaged 52 ppg.


BTW, Hakeem averaged 32.8 ppg on 29 FGAs in the '95 Finals (in a post-season in which team's took less than 80 FGAs, and shot much higher than his .488 eFG%.) And Kareem averaged 33.7 ppg on 32.5 FGAs against an old Wilt in the '72 WCF's. Obviously those two didn't have the strength to take 30+ FGAs without a dramatic decline in their scoring...

[JohnFreeman]

Kareem?

[GODbe]

Exposed . That title belongs to GOATbe.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Does anybody have the stats of Wilt, KAJ, MJ, Shaq, Kobe, ect in their 50-point games, particularly the ppg, fga, fta? 40-point games also.

[LAZERUSS]

BTW, had Chamberlain taken 63 FGAs in his last 60+ point game (66 points on 29-35 FG/FGA), which came just before Kareem would arrive the very next season...

and he would have scored 120 points, instead of that measley 100 point game that he had earlier in his career.

[LAZERUSS]

Does anybody have the stats of Wilt, KAJ, MJ, Shaq, Kobe, ect in their 50-point games, particularly the ppg, fga, fta? 40-point games also.

A 39 year old Kareem dumped 46 points on a 23 year old Hakeem, on 30 FGAs (21-30), and in only 37 minutes...

[Deuce Bigalow]

BTW, had Chamberlain taken 63 FGAs in his last 60+ point game (66 points on 29-35 FG/FGA), which came just before Kareem would arrive the very next season...

and he would have scored 120 points, instead of that measley 100 point game that he had earlier in his career.

According to Marchesk's thread, Wilt in his 32 regular season career 60-point games averaged 66 ppg on 45 fga, 20 fta

Kobe in his 5 regular season career 60-point games averaged 65.8 ppg on 36.8 ppg, 19 fta

[CavaliersFTW]

Imagine if they had Wilt's freakish stamina and durability, then maybe they'd get those volumes of touches! As even the great Phil Jackson said (competitor of Wilt, coach of Shaq), what separated Wilt as the better athlete was specifically his GOAT-level stamina and conditioning. Saying "Imagine if those guys got those touches!" lol... Imagine YOU had Wilt's athleticism and conditioning while you're at it, how many points a game would YOU score back then Deuce, if it's as easy as gifting other players Wilt's unique abilities

/thread

[Levity]

anyone know if "3 in the key" was an enforced rule back then?

[CavaliersFTW]

anyone know if "3 in the key" was an enforced rule back then?

There's no such thing as a "key" without that rule being enforced, that's the very purpose of a key. Except maybe in the modern game where I see guys camping in there for 5-6 seconds at a time. Something I do not see in all the games I've collected from the 1950's to the early 1970's. It seems refs these days are very slack on calling it, much like they are about carries when guards and forwards dribble.

[Deuce Bigalow]

anyone know if "3 in the key" was an enforced rule back then?

Since 1936 according to this http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_seconds_rule