Ginobili is carrying the Spurs

[Anaximandro1]

OP, you need to step up your trolling.

[davehos]

"Old ass 37 years Ginobili" with 20pts 50% FG 4,0 Reb 4,3 Ast 1,5 Stl in 28min

Parker dissappeared this series, Danny Green 2.8 Pts/game, Marco Belinelli with 3,5 Pt/Game, Patty Mills with 5 points per game, And kawhi Leonard with just 9,5 per game.....

Still, they are 2-2 playing the worst basketball in Popovich era. And they also have Scrubs like Bonner and Splitter in the team. Duncan looks old and tired, last night with just 14 points in 38 minutes (Leonard 7 points in also 38 minutes!!!)

is going ON ???


Pd: Manu is a great player, but he is 37!!! Mavs should win this....

...... Splitter protects the rim and his inside threat frees up Duncan do to pick and roll at the top of the key to open up the shooters.

It's about stepping up and so far the Spurs have had people make big shots: Manu, Diaw, etc.

If not for some crazy 3 at the end of game 2 the Spurs would be up 3-1.

Dallas isn't a bunch of scrubs. They're a 50 win team ... they'd be the 3rd seed in the East. The west is stacked and it's wide open.

[robert_shaww]

OP, you need to step up your trolling.

thats not per 36, cant debate in that terms.

[T_L_P]

OP, you need to step up your trolling.

Anaximandro1 cleaning up the mess of this thread.

[robert_shaww]

Popovich and Brown both said game 7 was won because of Duncan, because of his ability to find the open man. How many big men in 2005 would have received as much attention as Duncan did? Lol at Sheed and Manu ever winning a ring together. The Spurs have four rings in their entire history, and they were all won with Duncan being the best player on the court. Now this guy thinks taking him away would lead to almost equal success?

And this guy calls himself a Spurs fan.

I didnt want to do it, but ok....

Spurs-Pistons 2005 Finals Game 7

Tim Duncan:

43min
10-27 FG
11 Reb
3 Ast
5 TO
25 PTS

Manu Ginobili

34min
8-13 FG
6 Reb
4 Ast
2 TO
23 PTS





PD: Parker 3-12 (8 points)

[robert_shaww]

Game 1 2005 NBA FINALS

Duncan
9-22 (24pts)

Ginobili
10-16 (26 pts)




Game 2 NBA 2005 NBA FINALS

Duncan 18 points 1 ast (38min)

Manu 27 points 7 ast 3 stl (31 min)

[T_L_P]

I didnt want to do it, but ok....

Spurs-Pistons 2005 Finals Game 7

Tim Duncan:

43min
10-27 FG
11 Reb
3 Ast
5 TO
25 PTS

Manu Ginobili

34min
8-13 FG
6 Reb
4 Ast
2 TO
23 PTS





PD: Parker 3-12 (8 points)

OP, you need to step up your trolling.

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[robert_shaww]

..

NO FG%...

People mad at kobe for his 6-25 in 2010 Game 7 NBA FINALS

Duncan with 10-27 in 2005 Game 7 NBA FINALS

[robert_shaww]

i will tell you more, in 2005 NBA finals, you trade Hamilton or Billups for Ginobili and Pistons wins in 5.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

i will tell you more, in 2005 NBA finals, you trade Hamilton or Billups for Ginobili and Pistons wins in 5.

Hamilton yes, unsure about billups though, him on Parker was a good matchup for Detroit

[rmt]

I didnt want to do it, but ok....

Spurs-Pistons 2005 Finals Game 7

Tim Duncan:

43min
10-27 FG
11 Reb
3 Ast
5 TO
25 PTS

Manu Ginobili

34min
8-13 FG
6 Reb
4 Ast
2 TO
23 PTS



PD: Parker 3-12 (8 points)

This is what happens when one goes by box score instead of watching the game. Here's the opinion of Parker, Ben Wallace, Larry Brown and Pop:

He was the fulcrum of virtually every key play down the stretch.

"His complete game is so sound, so fundamnetal, so unnoticed at times, because if he didn't score, people think, 'Well, he didn't do anything,'" Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. "But he was incredible and he was the force that got it done for us."

"You follow your leader," Spurs guard Tony Parker said. "Timmy is the leader of the team, and he just carried us tonight."

"He put his team on his shoulders and carried them to a championship," Pistons center Ben Wallace said. "That's what the great players do."

"You could tell when he caught the ball, how much more physical he was, getting in position and bumping and grinding and getting shots and making sure he got toward the rim, so that when people came at him he was in good position to open up a teammate," Popovich said.

"A lot of the shots they made, open shots, came as a result of us having a hard time guarding him," Brown said. "That's why he's such a great player."

"Rasheed was strapped all game," Brown said. "If you don't have your big people with the ability to play aggressively on Duncan, you've got no shot."

http://web.archive.org/web/200902192...SAS/recap.html

[rmt]

I believe Duncan is overrated, Parker was the best player in 07 and Manu in 05 (not only in the finals, also conference finals, semis and 1st round).

Manu saved duncan in the clutch in MULTIPLE playoffs games in the past...and still playing better than him in 2014 (27min vs 38min)

Duncan is a legend, of course, but he is not top 10, probably top 20.

(im not talking about ray allen shot saving lebron, paxton saving jordan, horry saving shaq/kobe etc..., im talking about carrying his team...not 1 shot)

2007 Regular Season

Duncan 20 pts / 10.6 rebs / 3.4 assts / 2.4 blks 54.6%FG all-nba 1st team, all-defense 1st team
Parker 18.6 pts / 5.5 asst 52%

2007 Playoffs

Duncan 22.2 pts / 11.5 rebs / 3.3 assts / 52.1%
Parker 20.8 pts / 5.8 assts 48.9%

Using PER 36 stats is ridiculous. Manu could never maintain his stats playing those minutes. He's fragile, gets injured often, and takes forever to regain his rhythm. Can't believe that a Spur fan (one who watches the games) could ever be saying some of the stuff robert shaww is saying like Duncan top 20? He needs to watch some 03 and 2nd year Duncan.

Manu is not even on the level of Parker. At least Parker can carry a team night in, night out throughout seasons. Manu is not on Ray Allen's level either - Ray was the franchise player for Seattle. Don't get me wrong - Manu's playing well this series, but he can't do it night in, night out, year after year.

[robert_shaww]

2007 Regular Season

Duncan 20 pts / 10.6 rebs / 3.4 assts / 2.4 blks 54.6%FG all-nba 1st team, all-defense 1st team
Parker 18.6 pts / 5.5 asst 52%

2007 Playoffs

Duncan 22.2 pts / 11.5 rebs / 3.3 assts / 52.1%
Parker 20.8 pts / 5.8 assts 48.9%

Using PER 36 stats is ridiculous. Manu could never maintain his stats playing those minutes. He's fragile, gets injured often, and takes forever to regain his rhythm. Can't believe that a Spur fan (one who watches the games) could ever be saying some of the stuff robert shaww is saying like Duncan top 20? He needs to watch some 03 and 2nd year Duncan.

Manu is not even on the level of Parker. At least Parker can carry a team night in, night out throughout seasons. Manu is not on Ray Allen's level either - Ray was the franchise player for Seattle. Don't get me wrong - Manu's playing well this series, but he can't do it night in, night out, year after year.