Both Bosh & LeBron say the 2014 Spurs are the best team they have ever played against

[Kargo]

I'm very happy the Spurs won the final but man,this team is getting overrated so hard right now.

The Mavs swept the 2 time defending champs in the Lakers,beat a healthy Thunder team with Durrant/Westbrook/Ibaka/Harden in 5 and beat a fresh,healthy,motivated team in the Heat.

The Spurs beat the Mavs 4-3,they were outplayed in the first two games at home,but somehow managed to get a split.The Mavs lucked out game 3,The Spurs lucked out game 4.

They basically went 2-2 with the Thunder when Ibaka was playing.Who knows how that series could have went if he was healthy?

They played 2 pretty bad games against Miami and 3 fantastic in games 3,4 and 5.

And because they played their best basketball against a non-existent team that completely fell apart in their last three games,that's all people are going to remember.

This dysfunctional Miami team was the worst finals team since probably Cleveland in 2007,so they made the Spurs look a lot better than they were.No bench,Wade and Bosh going awol,Brick showing for a quarter a game,no PG's,no center,Ray Allen becoming useless...this team would not have made it to the west conference final let alone the finals.

[DMAVS41]

2014 Spurs are the best Finals opponent they have faced.

2011 was their most difficult road, competition wise, to a championship. That was probably Miami's best team though as well. They've always had old, vet minimum role players. But LeBron / Wade / Bosh were firing on all cylinders in 2011. Bron was just ass in the Finals, that's all.

2011 Mavericks aren't as great as they've been made out to be. Even with LeBron being nonexistent it was still competitive with Dallas. We really going to act like it wasn't on some levels a flukey win? Not to discredit Dallas, but it's basically true.

2013 Spurs are the second best they have faced in the Finals. D. Wade didn't show up this summer, like he did last year in the Finals. But last year Parker was hobbled, and Ginobili had the worst series ever for his standards.

This year, K. Leonard just improved leaps and bounds. It made all the difference for them, giving the Spurs an added dimension.

You could say the same thing about 13 though. Even with Wade/Bosh/Chalmers all playing worse...they won the series. They didn't just come close to winning...they won the series.

Not sure how you call Dallas beating the Heat kind of flukey...the Mavs won in 6 and dominated game 6.

What everyone seems to ignore is just how bad the Spurs choked...and just how the Heat defense dipped in 13.

You also can't remove the Mavs from getting credit completely for how Lebron played. We presented a tough matchup for him and were able to attack him on both ends.

The 13 Spurs were just not a very good team in the finals. Manu/Parker/Green all collapsed the last 2 games. Neal was average. Splitter played no real role. Diaw didn't have much of an impact either.

I also have to laugh at everyone going nuts about the Spurs...and this isn't taking away from the Spurs, but the Heat weren't good this year. Their defense sucked and Wade is just officially a shell. Chalmers fell apart and Bosh didn't do much either. These finals were a case of just a 1 man team that didn't play any defense at all.

This was a Spurs team that go a real test from the Mavs and honestly needed an Ibaka injury to avoid a game 7.

I just don't see how the 13 Heat beat the 11 Mavs....it really just makes no sense when you think about it. And there is no ****ing way a team with 3 players collapsing in the 2nd half of the series like manu/parker/green did is beating the 11 Mavs either.


What more do you want out of the Mavs? Beat a good Blazers team, swept the title favored Lakers, beat the loaded Thunder in 5, and then beat prime Wade/Lebron/Bosh with a top 3 offense and top 5 defense in 6 in the finals.

Flukey?

No...what was flukey was the Heat's win in 13. Again, that 13 finals was a finals of two worn down teams playing average basketball. I'll say it again...the Spurs should have won game 6 despite Parker/Manu/Green/Neal/Diaw going a combined 13 of 48.

[Kargo]

2014 Spurs are the best Finals opponent they have faced.

2011 was their most difficult road, competition wise, to a championship. That was probably Miami's best team though as well. They've always had old, vet minimum role players. But LeBron / Wade / Bosh were firing on all cylinders in 2011. Bron was just ass in the Finals, that's all.

2011 Mavericks aren't as great as they've been made out to be. Even with LeBron being nonexistent it was still competitive with Dallas. We really going to act like it wasn't on some levels a flukey win? Not to discredit Dallas, but it's basically true.

2013 Spurs are the second best they have faced in the Finals. D. Wade didn't show up this summer, like he did last year in the Finals. But last year Parker was hobbled, and Ginobili had the worst series ever for his standards.

This year, K. Leonard just improved leaps and bounds. It made all the difference for them, giving the Spurs an added dimension.

Absolutely bullshit.

Wade averaged 26,5 points in the finals and Bosh averaged 18,5 points in the final...Lebron averaged 18/7/7,not great but Wade more than made up for it...they lost because the Mavs were by far the best clutch team in the league,a lot better clutch team than this Spurs team.

Lebron averaged 28,2 against the Spurs but Wade and Bosh had 15,2 and 14.

So the big three averaged 62,8 against the Mavs but 57,4 against the Spurs...so that silly argument ''if Lebron played better against the Mavs'' could be used even better if both Wade and Bosh played to their level the games would have looked more like game 1-2 rather than 3-4-5.

That Mavs title was the least flukish win since Shaq and Kobe's Lakers...hey didn't need a game seven in any round,lost only 5 games,had no referee help and played every team they faced healthy and in full rotation.

[DMAVS41]

I'm very happy the Spurs won the final but man,this team is getting overrated so hard right now.

The Mavs swept the 2 time defending champs in the Lakers,beat a healthy Thunder team with Durrant/Westbrook/Ibaka/Harden in 5 and beat a fresh,healthy,motivated team in the Heat.

The Spurs beat the Mavs 4-3,they were outplayed in the first two games at home,but somehow managed to get a split.The Mavs lucked out game 3,The Spurs lucked out game 4.

They basically went 2-2 with the Thunder when Ibaka was playing.Who knows how that series could have went if he was healthy?

They played 2 pretty bad games against Miami and 3 fantastic in games 3,4 and 5.

And because they played their best basketball against a non-existent team that completely fell apart in their last three games,that's all people are going to remember.

This dysfunctional Miami team was the worst finals team since probably Cleveland in 2007,so they made the Spurs look a lot better than they were.No bench,Wade and Bosh going awol,Brick showing for a quarter a game,no PG's,no center,Ray Allen becoming useless...this team would not have made it to the west conference final let alone the finals.

Bingo.

Exactly this.

The Heat saw their defense fall apart this year. They had the 11th best defense in the regular season playing their joke schedule....just not a good team and it's inflating the hell out of the Spurs.

This notion that the 14 Spurs are easily better than the 11 Mavs is just so funny to me. I'm not saying the Mavs are better, but the lack of respect they get is silly.

Dirk would be by far the best player between the two teams. And the Mavs were deep and good with Terry playing by far the best ball of his career.

Dirk/Terry/Chandler/Marion/Kidd/Barea/Stevenson/Haywood/Peja

Duncan/Parker/Manu/Leonard/Diaw/Splitter/Green/Mills/Belli

So similar...acting like the Spurs are way better...especially the more I really reflect on everything is just stupid.

Again, Dirk would be by far the best player out of the two teams.