LeBron can never be called "colluder" or "ringchaser" ever again

[J Shuttlesworth]

lets see your predictions for wiggins. hopefully you can get lebrons balls out of your mouth long enough to make a rational post about it. wiggins is at least 18/5/3 player in his rookie year with excellent defense which is very comparable with wade next year who doesn't even play every game. wiggins will easily be a better compliment than wade to lebron next year.

as far as bosh, so bosh on the raps at 24/10 player at his best is better than a combined force of kyrie at 22/6 and dion waiters at 16/3/3 and anderson verajeo at 14/14. let me know if that computes in your brain.

are the balls out of your mouth yet?

lol @ comparing Wade to Wiggins. Wade has won 3 rings and has an FMVP and was an MVP candidate. You're comparing that to a guy who potentially could be a bust.

Just answer my question though. Why weren't Melo/Love seriously considering Cleveland if it's such a prime destination for a star? Please answer this

[edrick]

Yeah tough break teaming up with 3 #1 picks.

Yeah, we all know how often #1s turn out to be amazing, right? Totally a given that they won't suck.

Jordan returned to a team that got pretty far without him. Lebron is returning to a team that can't even make the playoffs without him.

[Sarcastic]

Karl Malone ring chased at the end of his career, and that label still sticks to him. LeBron ring chasing in his prime is a stink he can never wash off.

[SupermanOnSteroids]

lol @ comparing Wade to Wiggins. Wade has won 3 rings and has an FMVP and was an MVP candidate. You're comparing that to a guy who potentially could be a bust.

Just answer my question though. Why weren't Melo/Love seriously considering Cleveland if it's such a prime destination for a star? Please answer this

so tell me your predictions for wiggins for next year. are you sure he will be a bust? let us know please.

[SupermanOnSteroids]

lol @ comparing Wade to Wiggins. Wade has won 3 rings and has an FMVP and was an MVP candidate. You're comparing that to a guy who potentially could be a bust.

Just answer my question though. Why weren't Melo/Love seriously considering Cleveland if it's such a prime destination for a star? Please answer this

Love IS seriously considering Celveland.

[Roundball_Rock]

This guy is basically doing the opposite, while still in his prime

He went from a team that went to 4 straight finals, with 2 HOF and a GOAT organisation, to the laughing stock of the league who won only 33 games last year

The Cavs have heavily struggled since 2010, never making the playoffs, they also have incompetent management.

LeBron is basically doing the opposite of ringchasing, going to a team full of inexperienced players, instead of staying on a team with Wade, Bosh, and the GOAT GM Riley

Who else in nba history would have the guts to leave a team like Miami, to go a 33 win team full of inexperienced players?

All hail King James

The only thing I can think of that is similar is Michael Schumacher leaving Benetton after winning 2 consecutive championships to the then-downtrodden Ferrari. He turned Ferrari into a juggernaut and this is a big part of his case for GOAT: the other Formula 1 legends moved from top team to top team or stayed on a dominant team; Schumacher took on the challenge of leaving a championship team to revive a mid-pack team and succeeded spectacularly. It would be like if MJ at his peak signed with the Clippers to see if he could win there.

Lower expectations (wilts under pressure) and the team is young and loaded with talent...what's not to love

Weren't you calling them a 4-5 seed in the East just yesterday? He went to that from a squad that was in the Finals for four consecutive years...

He thought staying in Miami and losing in the finals again would have hurt his legacy even more,

The Bulls would have beaten Miami in the ECF.

Haters go from calling the Heat the most stacked team in history w/ 3 superstars to saying that the 33 win in the East Cavs w/ Anthony bennett and unproven wiggins are a better contender than the team LeBron went to the finals 4 times with

Either the Heat are a ultra stacked team, therefore lebron is not a ringchaser for going back to cavs, or the heat were garbage so lebron won rings with a garbage cast

haters cant have it both ways

Good point. Which is it LeBron haters? Did LeBron carry scrubs who aren't better than a 33 win team without him or did he leave a stacked team for a young, unproven team?

if old Jordan was worth +18 wins to the Wizards, prime LeBron should be able to do the same for a much more talented Cavs team, bringing them to 50 wins and hence automatic contention this coming year.

That is true but any team with LeBron is an automatic contender. He could have went to the Sixers and made them contenders. There is nothing special about Cleveland at this point other than they have LeBron and some young talent, which will be enough for 50+ wins and contention.

If Cleveland is really an ideal situation for a superstar, why didn't Melo give them the light of day? Same with Love. He didn't consider them seriously until now that LeBron is there.

Excellent point...Cleveland is the GOAT destination but no one other than LeBron even considered Cleveland?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Love IS seriously considering Celveland.

Now that LeBron is there are you seriously that dense you didn't understand my point?

[coin24]

Derp bran joining 30 win team obviously not a ring chaser

No he's joining a team loaded with talent, cap space and a bright future. He knows the cavs can contend the next 4-5 years.. East is depleted dis gone be easy

[ArbitraryWater]

Karl Malone ring chased at the end of his career, and that label still sticks to him. LeBron ring chasing in his prime is a stink he can never wash off.

You can't ring chase in the peak of your career... Only at the end, a helpless player just joining a team with multiple stars, probably already won not too long ago with the same group of guys.

[BuffaloBill]

4 #1 picks on the same team

[Roundball_Rock]

4 #1 picks on the same team

Anthony Bennet put up 4/3/0 on 36% last year...Irving is good but has yet to make an all-NBA team. He likely will be a borderline top 10 player in his prime while being top 15 in others years, i.e. Bosh. Wiggins has not played a single game so we don't know how he will pan out.

[LBJ4MVP23]

In a weak east this Cavs team failed to make the playoffs.

LBJ didnt go to Toronto, the Bulls, or Pacers. He went to a lottery team and will take them to the title.

[Sarcastic]

Anthony Bennet put up 4/3/0 on 36% last year...Irving is good but has yet to make an all-NBA team. He likely will be a borderline top 10 player in his prime while being top 15 in others years, i.e. Bosh. Wiggins has not played a single game so we don't know how he will pan out.

Way to underrate the living shit out of Kyrie. He has an All Star Game MVP, been an All Star twice already, Rookie of the Year award, a max contract extension, and has been routinely put in the top 10 of all players by ESPN. All that at age 22.

[Roundball_Rock]

Way to underrate the living shit out of Kyrie. He has an All Star Game MVP, been an All Star twice already, Rookie of the Year award, a max contract extension, and has been routinely put in the top 10 of all players by ESPN. All that at age 22.

Compare that resume to that of superstars Wade and Bosh...Irving is good but he is no superstar. LeBron just left not one but two superstars to play on a 33 win team with a top 15-20 player, a 4/2/0 bust and a 19 year old who has never played a NBA game. Wade is a FMVP, has been all-NBA first team, has been top 5 in MVP voting twice (3rd in 09') and Bosh is a 9x all-star.

[Blue&Orange]

I guess when LEbron joined the HEat he wasn't ring chasing. I mean the Heat had barely a winning record and was 1st round fodder.

Dude is joining a team with 3 1st picks in 4 years. The NBA gifted the cavs so that Lebron could ring chase in his "hometown"

No he isn't a ring chaser