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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Quote Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
    Because the media pushed their narrative and the blinded sheep followed suit.

    Nothing LeBron did was "honorable". He saw that Cleveland had better upside (three #1 draft picks with the potential to sign the best PF in basketball) and jumped ship...yet again.
    Him being back home in Cleveland is a bit of both stan, and haters arguments. It's him being a nice guy, wanting to be loved, and wanting to go home. But it's also him being savy, managed correctly by his handlers, and cowardly looking for the easier way out yet again. A legacy move. Even if in the immediate future Cleveland isn't a lock for competing in championships. It's the smarter choice long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
    He left a team that you were calling the most stacked team in history for a 33 win team

    And why the f*ck would he do that when he wants to win titles?

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    I don't understand why fans are so critical athlete's decisions. Its their life. They have the right to do as they please. They don't owe you anything.

    LeBron waited until free agency, didn't demand a trade and went with the best option in his mind.

    What's the problem? As if all these "decision" haters wouldn't also jump at the opportunity to work for a company with a better future than they had now.

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Quote Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
    Because the media pushed their narrative and the blinded sheep followed suit.

    Nothing LeBron did was "honorable". He saw that Cleveland had better upside (three #1 draft picks with the potential to sign the best PF in basketball) and jumped ship...yet again.

    Lebron will be 30 this year. So you think he just jumped ship and went to a team with a better upside which can really be fully fulfilled only after 4-5 years when all of those young players will start hitting their prime? And at that time Lebron will be around 35 years old and there's a good chance he will be stacking up sidekick rings.

    Another thing to consider, lets say Bucks, Kings, Bobcats have the exact same young roster as Cleveland does now. Do you really see Lebron leaving Miami for any of those teams with that young roster? Staying in Miami he would be again a lock for the Fianls probably and with some improvements Miami would be again a favourite to win it all.

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    look, can't blame Lebron for this. He did make up for Decision 1.

    However, let's not annoint him a saint or say his intentions are purely because he wants to right the wrongs he did to Cleveland.

    Being able to right the wrongs is a convenient sidebar for Lebron. I am sure he feels legit down inside about being home... but comon...

    the main reasons are:

    -Miami is getting older and they have the virtual same core and peripheral pieces that SA totally destroyed and they have minimal room to maneuver

    - Cleveland has young pieces built for the long haul.



    everything about saving CLeveland and winning one for his home town (which is Akron, not Cleveland btw) is all just extra PR stuff, which I am sure he believes, but media is making us eat up like he's St. James guardian saint of those who burned their 23 jerseys

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBJ 23
    Lebron will be 30 this year. So you think he just jumped ship and went to a team with a better upside which can really be fully fulfilled only after 4-5 years when all of those young players will start hitting their prime? And at that time Lebron will be around 35 years old and there's a good chance he will be stacking up sidekick rings.

    Another thing to consider, lets say Bucks, Kings, Bobcats have the exact same young roster as Cleveland does now. Do you really see Lebron leaving Miami for any of those teams with that young roster? Staying in Miami he would be again a lock for the Fianls probably and with some improvements Miami would be again a favourite to win it all.
    you're missing the point.

    Lebron did more right than wrong...

    but the media is making us eat up the story Lebron is a saint and angel all at once. His intentions were not purely selfless.

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyscraper
    look, can't blame Lebron for this. He did make up for Decision 1.

    However, let's not annoint him a saint or say his intentions are purely because he wants to right the wrongs he did to Cleveland.

    Being able to right the wrongs is a convenient sidebar for Lebron. I am sure he feels legit down inside about being home... but comon...

    the main reasons are:

    -Miami is getting older and they have the virtual same core and peripheral pieces that SA totally destroyed and they have minimal room to maneuver

    - Cleveland has young pieces built for the long haul.



    everything about saving CLeveland and winning one for his home town (which is Akron, not Cleveland btw) is all just extra PR stuff, which I am sure he believes, but media is making us eat up like he's St. James guardian saint of those who burned their 23 jerseys
    ^realistic viewpoint. I'm sure James is glad to be back in Cleveland and i believe him when he says winning a championship for his hometown means a lot more to him than just "winning another one for miami".

    But if Cavs had no irving? Wade never declined? Lebron stays in Miami guaranteed.

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Just remember that Cleveland was easily his worst talent choice in free agency when you idiots say he went for the talent.


    Maybe Dallas was slightly worse because of age though

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketswin2013
    Just remember that Cleveland was easily his worst talent choice in free agency when you idiots say he went for the talent.


    Maybe Dallas was slightly worse because of age though
    Cleveland was his ONLY choice if he didn't want a media shitstorm and a reputation as a mercenary. It's a MUCH better option than Miami moving forward

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Are we going to pretend like the Cleveland front office has made any correct player moves?

    What have they done?

    Get lucky with 3/4 #1 picks?
    Win some lottery picks?

    Lebron joined on his own free will, which made love interested.

    Cleveland front office has done NOTHING in all of this, and they better start making the CORRECT decisions if they expect to even make it to the finals.

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyscraper
    you're missing the point.

    Lebron did more right than wrong...

    but the media is making us eat up the story Lebron is a saint and angel all at once. His intentions were not purely selfless.

    I'm not missing the point. Of course Media is making us eat up that story because, well it's the media and that story sells better.

    My only problem is with the posters who are saying that Lebron went back just because of the young talented Cavs roster and other factors like him coming back home or repairing some of the damage he did in 11' had nothing to do with it.

    He's not 25 years old anymore so he only has a few of peak years left and if he only cared about rings Miami would still be a better choice for the next 2 years lets say when he's at his peak. But he still went home so there has to be some truth of other ''honorable'' things which you so strongly reject.

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
    Him being back home in Cleveland is a bit of both stan, and haters arguments. It's him being a nice guy, wanting to be loved, and wanting to go home. But it's also him being savy, managed correctly by his handlers, and cowardly looking for the easier way out yet again. A legacy move. Even if in the immediate future Cleveland isn't a lock for competing in championships. It's the smarter choice long term.
    Pretty much

    This whole "maturity" thing...people get that way in time. What's the big ****ing deal? All these articles I'm reading about LeBron showing so much "maturity" blah blah. No. He thought Cleveland was the better opportunity for him from a basketball standpoint to compete and be with a perennial championship contending team (maybe not right away, but sooner than later).

    That's why the dude went there. Yeah some of that "homecoming" stuff may have played a little role, but at the end of the day, if Cleveland had a bunch of bums or had the roster of the Utah Jazz, do you honestly think that LeBron would have gone there? Of course not.

    But other than that, I would just like to say thank you to LeBron, because this makes the East more watchable.

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Quote Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
    Pretty much

    This whole "maturity" thing...people get that way in time. What's the big ****ing deal? All these articles I'm reading about LeBron showing so much "maturity" blah blah. No. He thought Cleveland was the better opportunity for him from a basketball standpoint to compete and be with a perennial championship contending team (maybe not right away, but sooner than later).

    That's why the dude went there. Yeah some of that "homecoming" stuff may have played a little role, but at the end of the day, if Cleveland had a bunch of bums or had the roster of the Utah Jazz, do you honestly think that LeBron would have gone there? Of course not.

    But other than that, I would just like to say thank you to LeBron, because this makes the East more watchable.
    And the saddest part of it all is that delusional Clevelanders absolutely in their heart of hearts believe that he would have come home no matter what.

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyscraper
    look, can't blame Lebron for this. He did make up for Decision 1.

    However, let's not annoint him a saint or say his intentions are purely because he wants to right the wrongs he did to Cleveland.

    Being able to right the wrongs is a convenient sidebar for Lebron. I am sure he feels legit down inside about being home... but comon...

    the main reasons are:

    -Miami is getting older and they have the virtual same core and peripheral pieces that SA totally destroyed and they have minimal room to maneuver

    - Cleveland has young pieces built for the long haul.



    everything about saving CLeveland and winning one for his home town (which is Akron, not Cleveland btw) is all just extra PR stuff, which I am sure he believes, but media is making us eat up like he's St. James guardian saint of those who burned their 23 jerseys
    Exactly. The media sure did its job though. ISH sheep are coming out by the dozen.

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    Default Re: Why is the public so uncritical of the reasons for Bron's return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyscraper
    look, can't blame Lebron for this. He did make up for Decision 1.

    However, let's not annoint him a saint or say his intentions are purely because he wants to right the wrongs he did to Cleveland.

    Being able to right the wrongs is a convenient sidebar for Lebron. I am sure he feels legit down inside about being home... but comon...

    the main reasons are:

    -Miami is getting older and they have the virtual same core and peripheral pieces that SA totally destroyed and they have minimal room to maneuver

    - Cleveland has young pieces built for the long haul.



    everything about saving CLeveland and winning one for his home town (which is Akron, not Cleveland btw) is all just extra PR stuff, which I am sure he believes, but media is making us eat up like he's St. James guardian saint of those who burned their 23 jerseys

    How the hell did he make up for it if he only signed up for 2 years with the option leave next year?????????????????????????????????????

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