Top 5 GOATs if we discount players who played under HOF coaches

[ImKobe]

[Dengness9]

[dubeta]

Jordan and Kobe were career betas

You think any of them had the guts to troll an entire nation with the 'not 6, not 7' speech??

[imdaman99]

2 for 5 is even more beta

[Dengness9]

2 for 5 is even more beta

[JT123]

Of course you would say "meh" to Pat Riley since he's basically been coaching the Heat for the past 4 years.

In all seriousness though, Spo is actually a really good coach in terms of scheme, philosophy, and game planning. He's just not (yet) a very good in-game coach IMO. That comes with experience.

We will see how good he is this season, now that he longer has the league's best player. Has zero playoff series victories without Lebron, but 4 straight Finals trips with Lebron. Anything less than a trip to the ECF this year and Spo will be exposed as a complete and utter fraud.

[choppermagic]

LOL at this thread.

Those players you excluded are the reason why those coaches are considered GOAT coaches! If Lebron was so good, Mike Brown and Spo would be on the GOAT list too, but he's only 2/5. Wasn't Riley from the press box before Magic and Kareem made him a star coach?

[G.O.A.T]

It's unfair how certain players have the good fortune to play under GOAT coaches like Phil Jackson, Pop, Red etc. So let's take those off our GOAT list.

1) Lebron James
2) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3) Larry Bird
4) Wilt Chamberlain
5) Hakeem Olajuwon

All of these guys played for coaches who will end up in the hall of fame, Spoelstra may be the exception if he never coaches successfully again.

Wilt won his first title under Alex Hannum, a top ten coach all-time. Kareem won four with Riley, a top five all-time.