The Death Penalty is dumb

[dude77]

for sure. if some dude killed my loved ones and was chillin out playing fcking ps3 games in prison, id be pissed

exactly .. how the fk can a family go to sleep at night in peace knowing that breivik fk face is living in a nice place, being catered to .. now THAT is sick

[MavsSuperFan]

exactly .. how the fk can a family go to sleep at night in peace knowing that breivik fk face is living in a nice place, being catered to .. now THAT is sick

In norway they also try to hire female prison guards. Most prisoners are male, and it might be too hostile towards them to take commands from other males.

[MavsSuperFan]

do you think we should torture people convicted of heinous crimes? after all, torturing is a less extreme punishment than execution.

We kind of already do torture prisoners. Solitary confinement is a form of torture.

On an intellectual level I know torture is wrong. On emotional level. if some guy like dahmer, ariel castro, james holmes, breivik or sandusky were getting raped every single day I would celebrate.

[ace23]

Retribution is just another word for revenge, and the desire for revenge is one of the lowest human emotions — perhaps sometimes understandable, but not really a rational response to a critical situation. To kill the person who has killed someone close to you is simply to continue the cycle of violence which ultimately destroys the avenger as well as the offender. That this execution somehow give 'closure' to a tragedy is a myth. Expressing one’s violence simply reinforces the desire to express it. Just as expressing anger simply makes us more angry. It does not drain away. It contaminates the otherwise good will which any human being needs to progress in love and understanding. - Raymond Schroth

Lol I was going to say, "Finally someone I agree with on the death penalty on ISH", then I saw that they weren't even your words.

[longtime lurker]

The death penalty is only there to satisfy peoples lust for vengeance. It really serves no purpose in a civilized society.

[Nanners]

Lol I was going to say, "Finally someone I agree with on the death penalty on ISH", then I saw that they weren't even your words.

we still agree, i just used someone elses words because my words tend to come out as jumbled garbage

[MavsSuperFan]

The death penalty is only there to satisfy peoples lust for vengeance.

agreed

It really serves no purpose in a civilized society.

Disagree. IMO Sometime state vengeance is necessary to prevent vigilantism.

Would you be able to forgive someone that rape, tortured, murdered a loved one of yours?

[MavsSuperFan]

Does anyone else think america already tortures prisoners via solitary confinement?

[MMM]

agreed


Disagree. IMO Sometime state vengeance is necessary to prevent vigilantism.

Would you be able to forgive someone that rape, tortured, murdered a loved one of yours?

Is there any evidence that countries or states with out capital punishment have more vigilantism.

[MavsSuperFan]

Is there any evidence that countries or states with out capital punishment have more vigilantism.

no, but you cant compare europe/canada/most first world countries to america. we are far more violent than they are. Our culture alone is far more violent and accepting of violence.

edit: and i dont really think vigilantism would increase, but I think vengence is an appropriate part of the justice system. America's current justice system is plenty vengeful. Eg. Solitary confinement

[MMM]

no, but you cant compare europe/canada/most first world countries to america. we are far more violent than they are. Our culture alone is far more violent and accepting of violence.

Agreed, which is why I mentioned comparing states as well. As for your last point isn't a large contributor to a "violent culture" is vengeance in the system. I mean the far majority of prisoners eventually got out with a large majority going back in at some point.

[longtime lurker]

agreed


Disagree. IMO Sometime state vengeance is necessary to prevent vigilantism.

Would you be able to forgive someone that rape, tortured, murdered a loved one of yours?

It's been shown that the death penalty isn't a deterent to crime. It doesn't matter what I'd want to happen to someone that killed one of my loved ones because I don't get to decide. And for good reason. Yes there are people that have forgiven those who killed family or even tried to kill them. Not everyone is blood thirsty. It's senseless for me to want vengeance against someone that has caused no harm to me at all(this is the case for most people that are for the death penalty)

[NumberSix]

Lefties are funny when it comes to stats. They're all interested in whether or not the death penalty deters criminals.......

But the same lefties completely disregard that the areas with the most gun owners have the lowest crime.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Dead murderers can't commit more crimes. Crime reduced.

It's just expensive to take care of these criminals, there needs to be a way they can "earn their keep" while serving time.

Innocent people like you and I should not be paying to feed and bathe serial killers. That's why I'd rather hang them. Or find a way for criminals to fund their own incarceration.