Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

[onhcetum]

Lebron James almost fooled us with his heart-felt "coming home" letter and other "small home town kid" epithets. But anyone with half a brain can see through the smokes and mirrors.

The fact of the matter is that Lebron knew all along about bringing Kevin Love over from Minnesota. That's why in his letter, he didn't mention Andrew Wiggins or Anthony Bennet.

So much for... "it won't be easy" and his patience being "tested".

LeJourneyMan:

LeJourneyMan is the only superstar player in NBA history to have switched teams twice before turning 30. Jerry West, Russell, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Robinson, Kobe, Pierce, Jordan, Malone, Stockton, Hakeem, Ewing, Reggie Miller, Allen Iverson, KG, Gary Payton, Isaiah Thomas, and Dirk all played for one team (until their twilight years).

They all went through droughts and rebuilding with their teams and stuck with them.

Lebron couldn't win a title on his own, so he had to team up with his superstar friends to win a title. Then, when he got spanked by the Spurs, he wanted to recruit Carmelo Anthony to create Team USA Lite. Lebron wants a guaranteed title every year.

When those plans fell through, he bolted and left Wade and Bosh (after they turned 30+ years old) to team up with two more superstars in Kyrie and Kevin Love (22 years old and 26 years old respectively), both coming off career seasons and with multiple All-Star appearances.

LeRolePlayer:

LeRolePlayer almost fooled us into thinking that his return to Cleveland was unconditional.

He orchestrated bringing Kevin Love over, brought over his team of 40%+ three point shooters from Miami, and then today, he brought over Shawn Marion, the guy who locked him up in 2011. Let the stacking begin...

LeRolePlayer needs to be surrounded with specialists and superstars in order to win a title. He needs all of these "specialists" on his team, so he can be regulated to playing a "role", which is why I'm now calling him a role player. Kobe or Duncan didn't need that. You gave them the ball, and you got out the way.

Lebron still hasn't won a title on his own. Right now, I have Dirk ahead of him in the all-time rankings.

[stalkerforlife]

Agreed.

[SouBeachTalents]

Name 15 better

[SouBeachTalents]

And people really need to stop saying Chris Bosh is/was a superstar

[Droid101]

True.

[RRR3]

[LAZERUSS]

Please provide us with your top-15 list...

[Cocaine80s]

Lebron is #10 all time

[Rodmantheman]

one of these threads again

[Kblaze8855]

These ridiculous topics would have at least a little merit if any of you ever mentioned basketball in your reasoning.

300 words in defense of a point about where a basketball player ranks without mentioning a single basketball skill or anything that happened on a court.

Usually a good sign the point isnt valid.

[onhcetum]

Please provide us with your top-15 list...

There's 12 guys that I have "for sure" ahead of him. And then, he's bunched up with 10-12 other guys. In my eyes, he still has no rings, so he's in there with the David Robinsons, Charles Barkleys, Patrick Ewings, Reggie Millers, Scottie Pippen, KGs, Drexlers, Paul Pierces, Allen Iversons, Gary Paytons...

[Rodmantheman]

These ridiculous topics would have at least a little merit if any of you ever mentioned basketball in your reasoning.

300 words in defense of a point about where a basketball player ranks without mentioning a single basketball skill or anything that happened on a court.

Usually a good sign the point isnt valid.

[SouBeachTalents]

These ridiculous topics would have at least a little merit if any of you ever mentioned basketball in your reasoning.

300 words in defense of a point about where a basketball player ranks without mentioning a single basketball skill or anything that happened on a court.

Usually a good sign the point isnt valid.

[JT123]

Name 15 better

Why do you always respond to obvious troll threads as if the poster wants to have an intelligent basketball discussion?

[dubeta]

Kobe's minimum 6 spots behind lebron so does that mean kobe is locked out of top 20?