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    Default Re: ESPN 1st Take on why players want to go the Cavs for less money

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopz2332
    Not a Kobe fan but you make yourself look like an idiot with that.

    "I'm staying with the clippers" isn't exactly the reason Paul isn't on the lakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    Then why did he have to go join Wades team in Miami..because Bosh didnt want to go to Cleveland..

    Bosh wanted to play with Lebron, just not in Cleveland. From 2010


    LeBron James may return to the Cavaliers, but Chris Bosh doesn’t want to go with him.

    The Raptors and Cavaliers have worked out a deal that would send Bosh to Cleveland, but the power forward is not interested in playing there, according to an ESPN.com report. The Cavaliers appear the favorite to bring back their favorite son, but James has been unable to convince Bosh to join him.

    The report states, “Both James and Bosh are aware that such a trade is possible, and James has tried to recruit Bosh to the Cavaliers several times in the past few weeks, according to sources.

    “But right now, Bosh remains cold to the idea of playing in Cleveland. … Although Bosh wants to play with James, he wants to do it in Chicago, Miami or New Jersey”

    If James cannot convince Bosh, it’s uncertain how this would affect a potential return to the Cavaliers.
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    AKRON, Ohio -- The drive took about 35 minutes. Neither man in the car said a word. Everything LeBron James was feeling on that trip to the airport four years ago -- the pain, the angst, the loss, the fear -- was written on his face.

    For weeks he had tried to find a way to stay, to recruit players to join him in Cleveland, so he wouldn't have to leave. Ray Allen said no. So did Chris Bosh, Trevor Ariza and Dwyane Wade. Sure, they wanted to play with him. Who wouldn't? But not in Cleveland. James was the one with a connection to the place, not them. If he wanted to win, he would have to sever those ties and go somewhere where other stars would join him.

    The decision to leave his hometown Cleveland Cavaliers for the Miami Heat had been made that morning. LeBron walked around with it uncomfortably all day. He knew it would hurt people, that nothing would ever be the same for him after he did it.

    Somehow he got through the final day of his annual basketball camp in Akron without confessing. By the time Damon Jones drove him to the airport, where he would fly to Connecticut and reveal his infamous decision to the world, there was a lump in his throat.

    "The ride from his house to the airport is 35 minutes," said Jones, who played with LeBron from 2005 to 2008 and remained a close friend. "Neither of us said a word. It was tough. You saw it on his face, just his emotions.

    "Everybody thought that the Miami decision was planned a week, two weeks prior, but it was in the last minute. He exhausted everything to try and get players to come to Cleveland and play with him. I was there for the whole week, staying in his house. He was agonizing, 'I want to win. I want to win here, but can we?'

    "I don't think the fans knew that. They think he just went to Miami and that was it."

    LeBron went to Miami all right. He won two titles and evolved into the best basketball player on the planet. He answered his critics with championship trophies. He married the mother of his children, and they built a life in South Florida together. But he never truly left northeastern Ohio.
    All these wanted to play with lebron but they didn't like Cleveland, the AREA. With KObe,noone wants to play with him even while being in a place like LA lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JT123
    So we gun act like prime Bosh didn't risk losing a max contract to keep playing with Lebron?
    Exactly


    On the other side, we have an injured Howard giving up 30 million in guaranteed money just to get away from Kobe.


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    Default Re: ESPN 1st Take on why players want to go the Cavs for less money

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopz2332
    Exactly





    You reaction is stupid, that's not even true. There's no tax in Houston, he's getting more after everything than he would get on the Lakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexSymbol
    You reaction is stupid, that's not even true. There's no tax in Houston, he's getting more after everything than he would get on the Lakers

    [b]Steve Nash Says Dwight Howard Sulked Because He Didn

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    Play with Lebron and you will get a lot more credit than you deserve and Lebron will take all of the blame even when he plays well...and Lebron never throws you under the bus publicly.

    Play with Kobe and you get zero credit when you win even if Kobe plays like garbage and you play well...also when you lose you get all of the blame and Kobe gets no blame even if he played like crap and you played better than him.

    Hmm tough decision.

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    Default Re: ESPN 1st Take on why players want to go the Cavs for less money

    people go to the cavs not because melos a chucker or because kobes a mean guy

    they go to the cavs for less cause the cavs have lebron/love/kyrie


    if the lakers had kobe/love/kyrie and the cavs had lebron/lin/boozer.... then guys would be taking pay cuts to play in LA

    if the knicks had melo/love/kyrie and the cavs had lebron/bargnani/calderon... then guys would be taking pay cuts to play in new york


    espn first take is bullshit. this entire board is bullshit... nobody cares than lebron is a "fun" guy... its about ****ing winning


    jesus ****ing christ



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    Default Re: ESPN 1st Take on why players want to go the Cavs for less money

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    people go to the cavs not because melos a chucker or because kobes a mean guy

    they go to the cavs for less cause the cavs have lebron/love/kyrie


    if the lakers had kobe/love/kyrie and the cavs had lebron/lin/boozer.... then guys would be taking pay cuts to play in LA

    if the knicks had melo/love/kyrie and the cavs had lebron/bargnani/calderon... then guys would be taking pay cuts to play in new york


    espn first take is bullshit. this entire board is bullshit... nobody cares than lebron is a "fun" guy... its about ****ing winning


    jesus ****ing christ


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    Default Re: ESPN 1st Take on why players want to go the Cavs for less money

    Quote Originally Posted by secund2nun
    Play with Lebron and you will get a lot more credit than you deserve and Lebron will take all of the blame even when he plays well...and Lebron never throws you under the bus publicly.

    Play with Kobe and you get zero credit when you win even if Kobe plays like garbage and you play well...also when you lose you get all of the blame and Kobe gets no blame even if he played like crap and you played better than him.

    Hmm tough decision.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcastic
    I hope this ends the "large market advantage" myth that has been perpetrated for the past few years.
    Large markets definitely help. Lakers and Knicks land elite talent here and there even when their organization appears to be in shambles. You never see the Bucks doing that. Winning cures everything, but it is much harder for a small market team to pull themselves out of the gutters.

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    from today

    Kevin Love to the Cleveland Cavaliers ILove Officially A Cavalier


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaSLiwfjmm4&hd=1


    on that lebron power/influence @ 1:48


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    Default Re: ESPN 1st Take on why players want to go the Cavs for less money

    Kevin Love on Lebron/cavs:

    "LeBron signed to come back, and a few hours later he called me and I said 'I'm in,'" Love said Tuesday at a news conference. "That had a lot to do with my decision."


    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...ews-conference



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    Default Re: ESPN 1st Take on why players want to go the Cavs for less money

    Quote Originally Posted by secund2nun
    Play with Lebron and you will get a lot more credit than you deserve and Lebron will take all of the blame even when he plays well...and Lebron never throws you under the bus publicly.

    Play with Kobe and you get zero credit when you win even if Kobe plays like garbage and you play well...also when you lose you get all of the blame and Kobe gets no blame even if he played like crap and you played better than him.

    Hmm tough decision.
    The whole media narrative during The Finals was that LeBron didn't have any help. There were also disrespectful (to both the Cavs and Heat) labels common on ESPN and other major media outlets like the "Miami Cavaliers."

    Not saying LeBron doesn't take heat when it is warranted (ie 2010 and 2011), but to say he "takes all the blame even when playing well" .... that's a mischaracterization of the truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShackEelOKneel
    Large markets definitely help. Lakers and Knicks land elite talent here and there even when their organization appears to be in shambles. You never see the Bucks doing that. Winning cures everything, but it is much harder for a small market team to pull themselves out of the gutters.
    Markets aren't even close to as important as they once were. With every game televised and in today's media culture of all the information you need just a mouse-click away whether you're in New York City or Punxsutawney, where a player chooses to spend his career is really of minor importance. It's really only vital for the people who live near the team (a relatively tiny number of the overall viewership/fanbase) or if a guy wants to get into acting during the regular season or something...

    Thirty years ago, you had to be in one of the big cities to really get all of the media attention a great player deserves. It is not that way anymore. And, the fact that the two best players in the league are in Cleveland and Oklahoma City, respectively, tells you all you need to know.
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    Default Re: ESPN 1st Take on why players want to go the Cavs for less money

    Quote Originally Posted by secund2nun
    Play with Lebron and you will get a lot more credit than you deserve and Lebron will take all of the blame even when he plays well...and Lebron never throws you under the bus publicly.

    Play with Kobe and you get zero credit when you win even if Kobe plays like garbage and you play well...also when you lose you get all of the blame and Kobe gets no blame even if he played like crap and you played better than him.

    Hmm tough decision.
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