If we want the NBA>NFL, should the league get rid of defensive 3 seconds?

[HurricaneKid]

The NBA will never be more popular than the NFL here in the USA, though it might be worldwide.

A few factors that will be difficult to overcome (among others):

1) Violence factor.
2) Fewer games with higher stakes.
3) Single elimination playoff games.

I strongly disagree with this. I have given up football. It kills people. Literally. Never mind the brain injuries, etc. The avg life span for a 5 yr NFL player is 54.7. These are the best conditioned players. The ones that broke the other competitors along the way. But if they are still in the NFL at 28 years old they are expected to live ~half as long as the average 27 year old. Think about that one car accident you were in 6 years ago and how you still aren't right. Now multiply that times 10,000. Universities used to have boxing teams. They don't anymore. It will take a while but fewer kids are playing football today than they were a few years ago.

[HurricaneKid]

But as far as def 3 sec. NO. DO NOT ALLOW IT. That just prevents the drive which is a far more exciting play than the 18 ft J.

[Dr.J4ever]

The NBA will never be more popular than the NFL here in the USA, though it might be worldwide.

A few factors that will be difficult to overcome (among others):

1) Violence factor.
2) Fewer games with higher stakes.
3) Single elimination playoff games.

If you were the head of a highly competitive corporation in a highly competitive field, you have to aim high or they get rid of you. You can't tell your stockholders "we will never be better than so and so".

They will want to hear your vision and then how you plan to get there. In this case, the NBA's goal is to be better than the NFL. It won't happen overnight, but if we tried, could the NBA be more popular in 10-15 years, I say it's possible.

BTW, there are talks ongoing in the NBA of single elimination tournaments, albeit either mid season or at the end of the season for other teams.

[Dr.J4ever]

2. UNPREDICTABILITY

The NFL is more unpredictable because there is only 1 game. A 7 game series and for example Brady would not lose against the Giants.

A fair point. But when you watch international games, you can see how a less talented team can stay in a game against a superstar laden team. This happens a lot when Team USA plays a Lithuania or Spain, and can't often times just blow them out of the water.

Now imagine a more even balance of talent in an NBA setting, where there is only one Lebron playing, and the other team only has a Steph Curry, but has a big shot blocking center, this team(Curry's team) may indeed beat Lebron's team in a series, if it plays the right schemes.

[Akrazotile]

Why would anyone care if the NBA is mor or less popular than the NFL?

Am I missing somethin here?

[tgan3]

Maybe create MMA basketball. The same goal and scoring points as basketball but there is no foul, you can do MMA moves on the opponent.

The violence and gore of the MMA + the excitement of a basketball game is a win win

[Dr.J4ever]

Why would anyone care if the NBA is mor or less popular than the NFL?

Am I missing somethin here?

It absolutely matters to the NBA. It's the goal of any competitive organization to be the best it can be.

From the fan's point of view, it's still pretty cool to root for your teams playing in a league that you know is the most popular in the US. Popularity begets more popularity.

[SouBeachTalents]

Maybe create MMA basketball. The same goal and scoring points as basketball but there is no foul, you can do MMA moves on the opponent.

The violence and gore of the MMA + the excitement of a basketball game is a win win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNGzaeLJrNU

[Soundwave]

Bump the white player quotient of players by 2-3x, reduce the regular season to 50 games, contract 4-6 of the teams, kill the excessive time outs at the end of a game, invent the DeLorean time machine and bring prime Jordan and prime Bird into the game ... then the NFL might start to sweat a little.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bump the white player quotient of players by 2-3x, reduce the regular season to 50 games, contract 4-6 of the teams, kill the excessive time outs at the end of a game, invent the DeLorean time machine and bring prime Jordan and prime Bird into the game ... then the NFL might start to sweat a little.

This post may have been made in jest, but I completely agree with all those points

[oarabbus]

What I do know is they need to remove that 5 second back to the basket BS.

[tgan3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNGzaeLJrNU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnjyfBT_ons

[Euroleague]

I agree that defensive 3 seconds should be banned. That's the single worst rule in any professional team sport.

It makes the NBA closer to WWE than actual sports competition.

And FIBA has repeatedly said they will never under any circumstances even discuss or consider adding it.

[Euroleague]

A fair point. But when you watch international games, you can see how a less talented team can stay in a game against a superstar laden team. This happens a lot when Team USA plays a Lithuania or Spain, and can't often times just blow them out of the water.

Now imagine a more even balance of talent in an NBA setting, where there is only one Lebron playing, and the other team only has a Steph Curry, but has a big shot blocking center, this team(Curry's team) may indeed beat Lebron's team in a series, if it plays the right schemes.

You just don't get it do you?

You never are going to get it are you?

It's NOT so less talented teams can compete with more talented teams. When are you going to grasp how basketball works?

The defensive 3 seconds is so that INFERIOR players and teams can play the game and appear better than they really are.

You STILL do not even understand what these rules exist for. You are proposing this, yet you don't have the basic understanding and grasp of why the NBA employs such rules.

[Euroleague]

It absolutely matters to the NBA. It's the goal of any competitive organization to be the best it can be.

From the fan's point of view, it's still pretty cool to root for your teams playing in a league that you know is the most popular in the US. Popularity begets more popularity.

The NBA isn't trying to be competitive. The whole point of rules like defensive 3 seconds are to create FAKE "NBA stars". What is so hard for you to comprehend about that?

Ty Lawson was barely even able to play in Euroleague. In the NBA he looks like a "star". That is the whole point of these rules. The same with the no hand checking, the allowance of traveling, the allowance of carrying, the refs giving special treatment to certain players, favoring certain players, barely any contact being allowed, the free throws parade that certain players get, etc.

It's to manufacture FAKE NBA "stars".

You seem to be able to grasp how removing the defensive 3 seconds would improve the game....but you have no understanding of why that rule exists or what motivations the NBA has for having it.

And you clearly don't get why removing it would change how games would be played.

It isn't the zone defense. It's the fact that the NBA defensive 3 seconds and all the other rules and reffing style, create a FAKE league that makes average, or below average, or bad players look good.

It makes good players look like "the best players in the world" to anyone that does not understand basic basketball principles.

Team USA plays close to even with those teams because they are barely better than those teams. It's not the rules. Team USA is still allowed to travel with the ball and carry with the ball in those games.

Take that away.......they don't even win those games.

The motive for the NBA is because guess what?

Without the defensive 3 seconds, all those Sportscenter highlights are GONE.

LeBron is GONE. The whole concept of the fake league image they created won't exist anymore.