How is LeBron higher on most peoples all time list than Wade?

[BrownEye007]

Serious question. Last time I checked 3>2 and its not like LeBrons stats are that much better than Wades. I could certainly see LeBron surpassing Wade soon, but as of right now is Wade not more accomplished?

[moe94]

LeBron has better everything with more accolades. Not even an argument, really.

[Nuff Said]

2fmvp and 4 MVP is certainly a great case?

[J Shuttlesworth]

So if ring count is your only meaningful stat, is Kawhi > KD?

[Smook A.]

Last time I checked 3>2

So with that logic, you're saying Robert Horry is better than guys like Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, and Shaq, right?

That's not how it works. Why do you think ringless players like Barkley & Malone are higher than Garnett & Dirk on most lists? You see, the real reason why LeBron is higher on the all-time list is because of his career accomplishments and the fact that he's been a better player than Wade every single season.

I could certainly see LeBron surpassing Wade soon, but as of right now is Wade not more accomplished?

LeBron James
2x champion
2x Finals MVP
4x NBA MVP
10x all-star
2x all-star game mvp
10 all-nba team selections
6 all-defensive team selections
ROY
Scoring Champ

Dwyane Wade
3x champion
1x Finals MVP
10x All-Star
1 All-Star MVP
8 all-nba team selections
3 all-defensive team selections
Scoring Champ

LeBron also has better career statistics. Really don't know why you think Wade should be higher on the all-time list.

[BrownEye007]

So if ring count is your only meaningful stat, is Kawhi > KD?

Ring count isn't the only meaningful stat to me. It seems that most of ish thinks that way though. The way I'm looking at it is, until the last year or two they were both on pretty much the same level as players. Maybe LeBron was a little better but they were certainly in the same tier. The rings to me do put Wade over the top though. Wades won rings with out LBJ. Same can't be said the other way around. And regular season mvp doesn't mean much to me. Every year there's a few players that could win it. Then out of all the top players the media drives their favorite player to the award.

[Dragic4Life]

I have Lebron at 5th on the list.

Wade I have him at 107th. So...

[BrownEye007]

So with that logic, you're saying Robert Horry is better than guys like Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, and Shaq, right?

That's not how it works. Why do you think ringless players like Barkley & Malone are higher than Garnett & Dirk on most lists? You see, the real reason why LeBron is higher on the all-time list is because of his career accomplishments and the fact that he's been a better player than Wade every single season.


LeBron James
2x champion
2x Finals MVP
4x NBA MVP
10x all-star
2x all-star game mvp
10 all-nba team selections
6 all-defensive team selections
ROY
Scoring Champ

Dwyane Wade
3x champion
1x Finals MVP
10x All-Star
1 All-Star MVP
8 all-nba team selections
3 all-defensive team selections
Scoring Champ

LeBron also has better career statistics. Really don't know why you think Wade should be higher on the all-time list.

I'm not trying to base my argument on rings. That's just one facet of the argument.

[BrownEye007]

I have Lebron at 5th on the list.

Wade I have him at 107th. So...

And you also happen to be one of the most retarded poster on ish

so...

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Wade was better at their peaks. Wade has a FMVP and ring without Lebron as the best player on his team the whole year, carried the Heat in 06 playoffs with ref help (like Lebron)

But Lebron has more longevity so hes a bit higher

Lebron at 16, Wade at 20

[J Shuttlesworth]

So with that logic, you're saying Robert Horry is better than guys like Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, and Shaq, right?

That's not how it works. Why do you think ringless players like Barkley & Malone are higher than Garnett & Dirk on most lists? You see, the real reason why LeBron is higher on the all-time list is because of his career accomplishments and the fact that he's been a better player than Wade every single season.


LeBron James
2x champion
2x Finals MVP
4x NBA MVP
10x all-star
2x all-star game mvp
10 all-nba team selections
6 all-defensive team selections
ROY
Scoring Champ

Dwyane Wade
3x champion
1x Finals MVP
10x All-Star
1 All-Star MVP
8 all-nba team selections
3 all-defensive team selections
Scoring Champ

LeBron also has better career statistics. Really don't know why you think Wade should be higher on the all-time list.

Case closed

Repped

[DaSeba5]

While Wade tends to get underrated by people, there's nothing that puts him over LeBron besides having 3 titles, which doesn't make up for LeBron having 4 MVPs and 2 Finals MVPs.

[Kingwillball]

Wade was better at their peaks. Wade has a FMVP and ring without Lebron as the best player on his team the whole year, carried the Heat in 06 playoffs with ref help (like Lebron)

But Lebron has more longevity so hes a bit higher

Lebron at 16, Wade at 20

In what world was Wade EVER better than Lebron.. Yes he had a great Finals aided by Whistles thus earning Dwhistle nickname but Lebron always beat him head to head before joining up and always was higher on MVP charts and stat charts. Only on ISh people invent their own history..

[Magic 32]

LeBron has better everything with more accolades. Not even an argument, really.

and Lebron made sure of that didn't he...

[Crimsonrain777]

Wade does have the better Finals record.

3/5 > 2/5


But Lebron is by far the better player