ISH opinions: is Lebron already ahead of Kobe all-time wise??

[SouBeachTalents]

It's literally neck and neck as of right now imo, so unless catastrophe strikes LeBron's career, I don't see how he doesn't surpass Kobe all time

[FatComputerNerd]

Only thing Kobe has on Lebron is more rings really.

Lebron is the better basketball player, and has been since he entered the league.


Mind you, this is coming from a Cavs fan who didn't want the guy back.

[SpecialQue]

No.

[Mass Debator]

[gts]

nope, not yet and not as close as Lebron fans would want you to believe

[poido123]

No.

Lebron needs to prove that he's not a p@ssy on a fulltime basis. He has too many question marks when it comes to winning against tough competition and this team stacking is not good for his credentials.

Until then, I can't move him above top 10 all time. Its a slight on the players above him who have won with legit adversity.

[MastaKilla]

Only thing Kobe has on Lebron is more rings really.

Lebron is the better basketball player, and has been since he entered the league.


Mind you, this is coming from a Cavs fan who didn't want the guy back.

Mind you, this is coming from a guy that thinks rookie Lebron was better than Kobe in his prime.

[AnaheimLakers24]

nope

[SouBeachTalents]

No.

Lebron needs to prove that he's not a p@ssy on a fulltime basis. He has too many question marks when it comes to winning against tough competition and this team stacking is not good for his credentials.

Until then, I can't move him above top 10 all time. Its a slight on the players above him who have won with legit adversity.

What "adversity" did players like Magic, Bird, Shaq and Kobe have to win with?

[GrapeApe]

Heat fans so bitter and ungrateful.

Ranking LeBron below Kobe (for now) makes me bitter and ungrateful?

Are you really that insecure?

[GODbe]

.He'd need to win at least 7-8 rings on a far less stacked team to even be in a conversation with Kobe. And even so, he'd still be lightyears behind Kobe in terms of the eye test and Ring:Asterisk ratio.

[MastaKilla]

What "adversity" did players like Magic, Bird, Shaq and Kobe have to win with?

Well for beginners, Kobe in 2010 alone had to go through more 50 win teams to get a championship than Lebron did through his entire career up to 2014.

Lebron won all his championships with 2 all stars beside him. Kobe only 1. Kobe did as much with Pau Gasol out west as Lebron did with Wade & Bosh in the WOAT conference.

Bird immediately turned a shitty team into a playoff contender.

Magic as a rookie point guard replaced KAJ at center in the finals and won the deciding game..

[Trollsmasher]

yes

it's a general consensus among players, experts and fans

[Meticode]

I think he will end up being, but right now? No.

[AnaheimLakers24]

yes

it's a general consensus among players, experts and fans

no one would care if you died in real life