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College star
Re: Rebound(Lebron vs Michael Jordan)
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
prior to jordan, guards were usually 6''2-6''5, now they go up to even 6''8 or 6''9 (swingmen). just watch every Jordan game, and you will see a few things.
1) he was generally guarded by a shorter defender (2-3 inches shorter)
2) he was able to back his shorter defender down 1 on 1.
lebron Defenders:
Durant 6''9
AK47: 6''9
Prince 6''9
Battier 6''8 (now retired)
Marion 6''8
Pierce: 6''8
Posey 6''8
Johnson: 6''8
Harrington: 6''8
Bowen 6''7 (now retired)
Artest: 6''7
K.Martin 6''8
Bell: 6''5
Davis: 6''4
jordan Defenders:
Russell 6''7
Ehlo: 6''6
Payton: 6''4
Ainge: 6''4
Dumars: 6'3
Starks 6"3
lebron faces better, bigger, stronger, athletic players night in and night out against zone defenses (illegal in Jordan's day). all the elite defenders of the 80s were 6'4" and under (look it up).
bottom line...
typical defenders jordan faced 6''2 -6''5, less athletic
Typical swingmen lebron faces 6''5-6''9, more athletic
You're listing SF's vs SG's Ofc SF's are usually taller, like how Bron is taller than MJ You'll put a dude like Battier, Pierce or Kirilenko... on Jordan and he's getting blown by more often than not, though
D-Wade's not even 6'4 w/o shoes, neither is Tony Allen, Avery Bradley's 6'2, James Harden's 6'4 (can't talk about him when it comes to defense though lmfao)....
Sidney Moncrief (legit 6'4) or Michael Cooper (6'5 bare minimum) would still be the best perimeter defenders in the game had they been playing today, for example.
In fact, league's height average has decreased, and that's even with players being listed with shoes on nowadays.
Shit, people like to talk about the athleticism, and I'd argue that a dude like Larry Bird was guarded by more athletic players, overall/on average, than LeBron has, especially/mostly coming playoff time.
You're just a troll though, a sad tool, proven by stuff like this:
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
i evaluate players on skill, stats and competition. lebron simply does more than anyone in history, including jordan - and its not very close.
scoring: wash (lebron was more efficient
playmaking: lebron
rebounding: lebron
overall defense: lebron (can guard multiple positions on the floor)
athleticism: lebron
competition faced: lebron
lebron is a better rebounder because of his size, speed, and strength. essentially a pg in a PF body out-rebounding most of his peers H2H.
a better playmaker, also because of his height and strength (checkout his FULL court passes). there isn't anything he CANT do on the floor,which makes him the toughest cover in history. beethoven in sneakers
Funny that music hasn't evolved much to you, as opposed to basketball in 20 years or whatnot lmfao... You should've said Justin Biber in sneakers, or something along those lines
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: Rebound(Lebron vs Michael Jordan)
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
honeslty it all comes down to what your definition of GOAT is. some are wierd and dont' judge players by skill sets and go by rings,etc. lebron is by far the most skilled player ever
MJ,Kobe,Penny hardaway,Olajuwon, duncan were more skilled than lebron ever was.
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: Rebound(Lebron vs Michael Jordan)
Again nobody can give a good answer why Lebron who's 6'8 250lbs playing with a shitty big era, were less that Jordan offensive rebound on MJ first nine years .
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