Rebound(Lebron vs Michael Jordan)

[mehyaM24]

I did... Players were taller in Jordan's day...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_lea...ing_experience
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i just state the facts. the defenders are taller and more athletic today - its not disputable.

[c5terror]

regardless if you think shorter defenders are better or taller defenders are better, you can see that lebron goes up against more athletic taller defenders. FACT.

also, you consider that lebron 2003-2014 played against BOTH zone and handchecking (they still allow it) and his best season during that time span 2012 .FACT
Jordan only faced handchecking, not zone in his prime. FACT

It is also a fact that, lebron wasn't guarded that much as Jordan did, as you may know before 2013, to stop lebron just close the paint and let him shoot jumpers and he's done. LOL

[mehyaM24]

^lebron has faced more traps, zones, and sophisticated defense than jordan ever did. the help defense in todays game is just lightyears better than the 90s

[Nowitness]

the only competition lebron faces is out west and we all know how well he performs against those teams

jordan was also a better defender for sure. lebron couldnt contain kawhi leonard

[3ball]

i just state the facts. the defenders are taller and more athletic today - its not disputable.

players were taller back then... so jordan faced taller defenders.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_lea...ing_experience







And Jordan obviously faced better SG's... and slightly better SF's too:





Starting SG's with Minimum 15.0 PER


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James Harden.................... Michael Jordan*
Dwayne Wade.................... Clyde Drexler*
Manu Ginobili..................... Mitch Richmond*
Joe Johnson....................... Joe Dumars*
Demar Derozan.................. Reggie Miller*
Klay Thompson................... Ron Harper
Jamal Crawford.................. Fat Lever
Aaron Afflalo...................... Alvin Robertson
Nick Young......................... Dale Ellis
JJ Redick........................... Ricky Pierce
Kevin Martin....................... Hersey Hawkins
Wesley Matthews................ Jeff Hornacek
Gerald Green...................... Ronaldo Blackmon

HOF (*)



Starting SF's with Minimum 15.0 PER


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Lebron James*..................... Larry Bird*
Kevin Durant*...................... Dominique Wilkins*
Carmelo Anthony*................ Scottie Pippen*
Paul George........................ James Worthy*
Gordon Hayward.................. Chris Mullin*
Kawhi Leonard..................... Bernard King*
Trevor Ariza........................ Alex English*
Andre Iguodala.................... Adrian Dantley*
Nicholas Batum.................... Derrick McKey
Luol Deng............................ Reggie Lewis
Josh Smith.......................... Orlando Woolridge
Chandler Parsons.................. Mark Aguirre
Rudy Gay............................ Jerome Kersey

HOF (*)

[c5terror]

^lebron has faced more traps, zones, and sophisticated defense than jordan ever did. the help defense in todays game is just lightyears better than the 90s

Sorry, He never did. the moment he did, he bail out pass LOL.
All Lebron face was an open jumpers because all team pre 2013 want him to shoot jumpers and is sliding under screen.

[3ball]

^lebron has faced more traps, zones, and sophisticated defense than jordan ever did. the help defense in todays game is just lightyears better than the 90s

Garbage - Lebron gets an open paint on most possessions as you see below, due to the floor-spreaders (also seen below) and defensive 3 seconds, which further clears the paint of defenders:







Compare that to Jordan facing defenses that didn't guard the 3-point line or have defensive 3 seconds..

Watch the GIF below 3 or 4 times in order to notice the literal WALL of defenders (laimbeer, rodman, & salley all in a row, below):





Like night and day...
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[Nowitness]

2013 spurs gave bran 3 feet of space every play.

harder defenses

[jstern]

regardless if you think shorter defenders are better or taller defenders are better, you can see that lebron goes up against more athletic taller defenders. FACT.

also, you consider that lebron 2003-2014 played against BOTH zone and handchecking (they still allow it) and his best season during that time span 2012 .FACT
Jordan only faced handchecking, not zone in his prime. FACT

I once averaged out the height of every starting SG in NBA Live 95, and compared it to the average height of current SG (around 2010), and the 1995 SG were a little bit taller.

I don't remember most shooting guard being 6'3", 6'4" then. I saw someone in this page mention Payton as an example, he was a 6'4" PG. And even being a PG he was a better defender than every SG today.

[c5terror]

Garbage - Lebron gets an open paint on most possessions as you see below, due to the floor-spreaders (also seen below) and defensive 3 seconds, which further clears the paint of defenders:







Compare that to Jordan facing defenses that didn't guard the 3-point line or have defensive 3 seconds..

Watch the GIF below 3 or 4 times in order to notice the literal WALL of defenders (laimbeer, rodman, & salley all in a row, below):





Like night and day...
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Damm lebron's footwork really sucks and i think he travel there but i'm not sure. And the defender is more afraid of chalmers than Lebron LOL

[Angel Face]

Jordan is a better rebounder. Lebron's position allows him to be nearer the basket, nevertheless Jordan averaged 6.2 rpg during his career including his stint in Washington, where else Lebron has 7.2 rpg career playing a position nearer the basket. What's more impressive, Jordan did it vs 90s and 80s bigs playing as a guard.

Forwards always have advantage over guards in terms of rebounding. Comparing their career rpg stats, Lebron only has 1rpg difference against Michael.

MJ career rpg 6.2
Lebron career rpg 7.2

[andgar923]

MJ is the better rebounder.

[poido123]

Damm lebron's footwork really sucks and i think he travel there but i'm not sure. And the defender is more afraid of chalmers than Lebron LOL

Wasn't a travel.

Have you played ball?

[poido123]

Jordan is a better rebounder. Lebron's position allows him to be nearer the basket, nevertheless Jordan averaged 6.2 rpg during his career including his stint in Washington, where else Lebron has 7.2 rpg career playing a position nearer the basket. What's more impressive, Jordan did it vs 90s and 80s bigs playing as a guard.

Forwards always have advantage over guards in terms of rebounding. Comparing their career rpg stats, Lebron only has 1rpg difference against Michael.

MJ career rpg 6.2
Lebron career rpg 7.2

Lebron is a better rebounder and he should be playing SF/PF.

Bigger size, fast and taller.

MJ is a very good rebounder as a SG, one of the best.

[3ball]

Lebron is a better rebounder and he should be playing SF/PF.

Bigger size, fast and taller.

MJ is a very good rebounder as a SG, one of the best.

Did you read the OP?....

Despite the bigger size, Lebron gets WAAAAAAAY less offensive rebounds than Jordan, year-in-year-out.

So Lebron only gets the easy rebounds....and at 6'8", his 7.2 rebound average is UNDERACHIEVING.... do you realize that?