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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Yeah, sure. Why not.



    The NBA has been strong since around 1970 when it became fully integrated.

    2014 - 1970 = 44 years.

    We've seen 44 years of competitive bball...or 4 generations. So, there shoud be about 2 or 3 top 10 players in each generation. Durant is the second best player in this generation.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    I think that 10th spot is open.... In terms of tiers, I think there's a slight gap after 9, followed by Hakeem, then another slight gap and we get to West/Moses/Kobe/Oscar etc

    ... So, if KD really piles up on Rings WHILE being the overwhelming factor and dominating in the postseason, he has a small chance at passing Hakeem... Small.

    Surely he should be headed top 20.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by S13M
    Dude's inferior to T-Mac and Melo and when he gets injured, suddenly he's top-10 all-time talent. Durant is lucky to even make it to the HoF.
    obvious troll is obvious

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    Not true at all. All of those guys 7 years into their careers had a top 10 trajectory (pretty clearly) except maybe Hakeem but even he was a better player than current durant by that time.
    Quote Originally Posted by guy
    Way too much premature crowning going on it seems. At least with Lebron before the titles it was due to him being possibly the most freakish athlete ever. Durant isn't THAT special and really hasn't set himself apart from second tier of greats like those you mentioned.
    Am I taking crazy pills? Nobody has had his combination of length and shooting.

    Led the NBA in scoring by his third season and has improved noticeably every season.
    He's been an integral part of numerous top-5 defenses.

    Leads a top offense that barely runs plays and plays numerous players who can't shoot or even hold on to the ball

    We're out here comparing his resume to a bunch of guys who have already played a full career.

    People are going to hate of him and say he can't reach that level. They'll hate on the next guy too.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el


    and halfway through all their careers people probably threw out top-10 lists and said the same shit (except for Wilt and Russell who played before anyone cared)
    This. When MJ was Durant's age he was thought of as a selfish chucker who'd never win. Granted MJ didn't have a cast like Durant's at the time either.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold soul
    What makes you think that?
    The fact that:

    MJ
    Magic
    Russell
    Kareem
    Bird
    Wilt
    Duncan
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    are all better than Kobe. And Lebron certainly looks like he's going to vault a lot of them.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by navy
    Durant wont have the nostalgia factor.


    He won't have the nostalgia factor? You don't think you're gonna be talking about KD in the future?

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    Am I taking crazy pills? Nobody has had his combination of length and shooting.

    Led the NBA in scoring by his third season and has improved noticeably every season.
    He's been an integral part of numerous top-5 defenses.

    Leads a top offense that barely runs plays and plays numerous players who can't shoot or even hold on to the ball

    We're out here comparing his resume to a bunch of guys who have already played a full career.

    People are going to hate of him and say he can't reach that level. They'll hate on the next guy too.
    Nobody is saying that he isn't insanely good at basketball. He likely goes down top 20. How on earth is that an insult? He just isn't better than anybody on that list.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy D for MVP
    The fact that:

    MJ
    Magic
    Russell
    Kareem
    Bird
    Wilt
    Duncan
    Shaq
    Hakeem

    are all better than Kobe. And Lebron certainly looks like he's going to vault a lot of them.
    I feel Kobe better than those players in bold at least career wise. We can agree to disagree here there nothing wrong with you having those 9 above him though. Lebron is borderline top 10.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    I think that 10th spot is open.... In terms of tiers, I think there's a slight gap after 9, followed by Hakeem, then another slight gap and we get to West/Moses/Lebron/Oscar etc
    fixed.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    If everything goes right for Durant, I can see him in the top 12.

    1. MJ
    2. Russell
    3. Wilt
    4. Kareem
    5. Magic
    6. Bird
    7. Kobe
    8. Duncan
    9. Shaq
    10 Hakeem
    11 Durant
    12. Lebron
    13. Oscar

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold soul
    I feel Kobe better than those players in bold at least career wise. We can agree to disagree here there nothing wrong with you having those 9 above him though. Lebron is borderline top 10.
    Strongly disagree here. Each and every one of these is comfortably ahead of Kobe imo. Lebron isn't just going to complete the top 10 either - he's likely to end up top 5 all time barring a drastic decrease in quality of play.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    Strongly disagree here. Each and every one of these is comfortably ahead of Kobe imo. Lebron isn't just going to complete the top 10 either - he's likely to end up top 5 all time barring a drastic decrease in quality of play.


    If Kobe joined the Spurs in 2004-05, would he be borderline top 5 by going 2-4 in the finals, just because he won 2 MVP's by default and averaged 27, 8, 8 in the regular season?

    Lebron stacked the deck at the optimum time in his career (and in the history of the eastern conference) and still ended up looking utterly mortal.

    It's just amazing how his calculated and spineless plan worked out to perfection for him.

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by fpliii
    He has that potentially for sure I'd say, but the top 10 is getting pretty crowded...

    i think players are gonna get kicked out of the top 11-20 then the new top 10=top 20. Or something like that

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    Default Re: Zach Lowe: Durant should finish as one of the Top 10 ever.

    I don't know about that.

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