Real reason that Lakers are losing is not because of Lin but Kobe..

[andgar923]

Good post. Not too many here have actually played the game in an organized level, obviously.

It worked in Philly for a few years with AI, you know, chucking the hell out of the ball. The 76ers were still successful due to the fact that AI was surrounded by a bunch of no-pride mostly defense only players.

The difference was, Iverson was a hustling defender. And like you said, players knew their roles and his role.

I do think the Lakers losing isn't all on Kobe's shoulders (chucking).

New coach, new roster, new system, no identity.

Kobe being a weak lazy defender and a chucker doesn't help, but it's not entirely his fault.

[andgar923]

Most of Kobe's current teammates are getting more offensive opportunities than they ever had in their entire NBA careers yet somehow that translates into being too demoralized to play any defense. Strong logic

It's about 'creating' for his teammates and playing within the offensive flow.

It's one thing to just give the ball to a player.

It's another to pass.

Learn the game.

[Stempel, HERB]

Good post. Not too many here have actually played the game in an organized level, obviously.

The guy you quoted is a 5'4 mexican. Pretty damn sure he's never played any level of organized ball. Instead projecting his pick up game experience from the park. Two completely different worlds. He's a clueless idiot.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

It's about 'creating' for his teammates and playing within the offensive flow.

It's one thing to just give the ball to a player.

It's another to pass.

Learn the game.

Kobe Bryant will retire with the most assists from a non point guard in NBA history. The Lakers have regularly been a top passing and scoring team in the league during his nearly 20 year tenure.

Tell me more about your rec league experience though

[Artillery]

Now back it up with facts. How many exactly flourished with him, getting more pts, and higher FG% as compared to them playing elsewhere?
Glen Rice? Swaggy? Nash? Payton and Malone? Blake? Sessions?

Don't forget Dwight. Best center in the NBA in Orlando and Houston. Looked like a scrub playing next to a cancer like Kobe.

[chazzy]

Don't forget Dwight. Best center in the NBA in Orlando and Houston. Looked like a scrub playing next to a cancer like Kobe.

Back surgery will do that to people

[andgar923]

The guy you quoted is a 5'4 mexican. Pretty damn sure he's never played any level of organized ball. Instead projecting his pick up game experience from the park. Two completely different worlds. He's a clueless idiot.

Does one need to have pro or college ball experience to understand elementary ball dynamics?

What I posted holds true in any ball setting.

5'8 btw

[Jlamb47]

Kobe isnt the real reason. Everyone saying his teamates with higher % should shoot more like they can create their own shot. Kobe is the only player who can create his own shot consistly

[Nets fan 93]

yea man, Kobe should pass the ball to Boozer and Lin and Grant Hill and Wesley because they're all great shooters

Grant Hill is a solid player though

[oarabbus]

The guy you quoted is a 5'4 mexican. Pretty damn sure he's never played any level of organized ball. Instead projecting his pick up game experience from the park. Two completely different worlds. He's a clueless idiot.

And that matters why? Everything he said was on point. You got a grudge against him or what...?

[Stempel, HERB]

And that matters why? Everything he said was on point. You got a grudge against him or what...?

High level competition basketball is not the same game you're playing down at the park. Sorry, it just isn't.

"Some of you never played basketball" Neither has he played basketball at a high level. It's just some ambiguous bullshit he's using to validate his list of lazy cliches. Nothing he said was on point or remarkable in any way. It's an ordinary take I've heard from any number of fans about any number of players they don't particularly like.

If you want to attach yourself to posters like him, be my guest.

[Mr Feeny]

Don't forget Dwight. Best center in the NBA in Orlando and Houston. Looked like a scrub playing next to a cancer like Kobe.

[oarabbus]

High level competition basketball is not the same game you're playing down at the park. Sorry, it just isn't.

"Some of you never played basketball" Neither has he played basketball at a high level. It's just some ambiguous bullshit he's using to validate his list of lazy cliches. Nothing he said was on point or remarkable in any way. It's an ordinary take I've heard from any number of fans about any number of players they don't particularly like.

If you want to attach yourself to posters like him, be my guest.

Gregg Popovich has never played basketball at an organized, high level. Therefore he doesn't understand the NBA and his player evaluations are bullshit. David Stern and Adam Silver probably understand basketball less than JR Smith. I mean, Smith plays in the NBA, not the game that Silver might play once in a blue moon at the park.

[LoveTheNBA23]

Don't forget Dwight. Best center in the NBA in Orlando and Houston. Looked like a scrub playing next to a cancer like Kobe.

Only in Orlando. Joakim was better than him last year and Cousins/Marc are better this year.

[Stempel, HERB]

Gregg Popovich has never played basketball at an organized, high level. Therefore he doesn't understand the NBA and his player evaluations are bullshit. David Stern and Adam Silver probably understand basketball less than JR Smith. I mean, Smith plays in the NBA, not the game that Silver might play once in a blue moon at the park.

First sentence, it's quite clear you have no idea what you're talking about. You're out of your depth.

@ you trying to be clever and cherry-picking while embarrassing yourself with wrong information about pop and silly generalizations. Good job.

Andgar set himself up as a person who has a greater understanding of the game BECAUSE he played basketball. His experience as a player has jackshit significance And, yeah, if you're going to use "Some of you don't even play basketball" as a leading statement, it would be nice if your resume contained something more notable than your career on the blacktop. Playing Internationally, at the collegiate or NBA level? Definitely more of a unique perspective.

I'm not even going to bother with your stuff about Stern and Silver. It's just awful.