Wilt most dominant ever, Russell greatest winner ever.

[CavaliersFTW]

Everyone else with a great resume is a watered down blend of the winning and dominance precedent set by Russell and Wilt. Therefore Russell or Wilt is the greatest of all time in my opinion, just depends on my mood. They set the bar so far out of sight no one can even hope to set their sights on duplicating even a fraction of either of what these two achieved.

Kareem and MJ have the least watered down blend of anyone though. So I don't contest them being discussed at the top with Wilt and Russ so long as it is understood by the person arguing the case for MJ or Kareem that Russell won more and Wilt dominated more than either of them.

[NumberSix]

Robert Horry is the greatest winner of all time.

7 in the modern era > 11 in the short white guy era

[K Xerxes]

What is your definition of 'dominance' that makes Wilt the most dominant?

Then, using that, was Wilt more dominant than Jordan if we compare playoff performances?

[T_L_P]

What is your definition of 'dominance' that makes Wilt the most dominant?

Then, using that, was Wilt more dominant than Jordan if we compare playoff performances?

Jordan and Shaq were more dominant than Wilt, a career 22.5 scorer on teams that scored over 120, playing entire games, and actively looking to get his.

Wilt dominated the RS like no other though.

[CavaliersFTW]

What is your definition of 'dominance' that makes Wilt the most dominant?

Then, using that, was Wilt more dominant than Jordan if we compare playoff performances?

Total individual impact on the court.

Yes he was more dominant than Michael Jordan in the playoffs. Wilt's presence on the floor is huge, playoffs or regular season, whether he puts up 100 points, 50 points, or 15 points his presence is felt on both ends in so many more ways. Blocking shots, contesting shots, rebounding, outlet passing. Wilt grabbed 45 rebounds against Bill Russell in the 1967 playoffs. That isn't most dominant ever type dominance?

His one weakness was free throws. That's literally it. He was dominant when the game clock was running. Regular season or playoffs his dominance didn't go away, unless you think stats like 37ppg and 25rpg isn't still MDE level?

[bdreason]

1. Kareem
2. MJ
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Magic
6. Shaq
7. Duncan
8. Bird
9. Hakeem
10. Kobe



I have Wilt at #4 because of his individual dominance. He's the only other player (Hakeem) in the top 10 that doesn't have at least 3 titles.

[ArbitraryWater]

Come playoff time:

MJ, Kareem, LeBron, Shaq, Magic are infinitely more dominant than Wilt.

[navy]

How did you become a Wilt stan again?

[Deuce Bigalow]

[CavaliersFTW]

Jordan and Shaq were more dominant than Wilt, a career 22.5 scorer on teams that scored over 120, playing entire games, and actively looking to get his.

Wilt dominated the RS like no other though.

For every rebound and blocked shot Shaq had in the playoffs, Wilt had about 1 more. For every HOF matchup Shaq had in the playoffs, Wilt had about 2 more. He was more dominant than Shaq. Regular season or playoffs.

[CavaliersFTW]

Come playoff time:

MJ, Kareem, LeBron, Shaq, Magic are infinitely more dominant than Wilt.

Is that why Wilt outplayed Jabbar in all playoffs save for 1973 (and then his team won anyways )?

[Kblaze8855]

Jordan and Shaq were more dominant than Wilt, a career 22.5 scorer on teams that scored over 120, playing entire games, and actively looking to get his.

You list wilts scoring numbers then say he was looking to get his?

You actually believe that wilt...couldnt...score more than 22 a game in his playoff career? You noticed he was shooting like 9-15 times a game for many many many of the game that make up his playoff stats right?

How is that trying to get his?

Wilt didnt care about scoring for the vast majority of his playoff career. And only once did anyone question of he could still score in those later years.....

SI questioned it.

And he scored 60...twice...the next week. 60 on the Kings and 66 on the Suns.

Then went back to passing and playing decoy.

Wilt could have scored whenever he liked his entire career.

[PsychoBe]

You list wilts scoring numbers then say he was looking to get his?

You actually believe that wilt...couldnt...score more than 22 a game in his playoff career? You noticed he was shooting like 9-15 times a game for many many many of the game that make up his playoff stats right?

How is that trying to get his?

Wilt didnt care about scoring for the vast majority of his playoff career. And only once did anyone question of he could still score in those later years.....

SI questioned it.

And he scored 60...twice...the next week. 60 on the Kings and 66 on the Suns.

Then went back to passing and playing decoy.

Wilt could have scored whenever he liked his entire career.

but....didn't?

the "most dominant ever" chose....not to dominate?

this argument doesn't look too good for you.

either way, no one has scored more points in the playoffs as michael, has scored more points in one game in the playoffs as michael, has averaged more points in the finals as michael (both all-time and in one series), etc, etc.

must we go on?

[ArbitraryWater]

You list wilts scoring numbers then say he was looking to get his?

You actually believe that wilt...couldnt...score more than 22 a game in his playoff career? You noticed he was shooting like 9-15 times a game for many many many of the game that make up his playoff stats right?

How is that trying to get his?

Wilt didnt care about scoring for the vast majority of his playoff career. And only once did anyone question of he could still score in those later years.....

SI questioned it.

And he scored 60...twice...the next week. 60 on the Kings and 66 on the Suns.

Then went back to passing and playing decoy.

Wilt could have scored whenever he liked his entire career.

Yet chose to average 22 ppg in a 1968 ECF against the Celtics where his team completely gave in after game 4 and lost a 3-1 lead...

Here is Wilt in games 6 and 7:

Game 6 (L 106-114)
20 points 6-21 FG
8-23 FT

Game 7 (L 96-100)
14 points 4-9 FG
6-15 FT

Combined 10-30 FG and 14-38 FT in games 6 and 7.

[Psileas]

Jordan and Shaq were more dominant than Wilt, a career 22.5 scorer on teams that scored over 120, playing entire games, and actively looking to get his.

Wilt dominated the RS like no other though.

If he was "actively looking to get his", why was he averaging only 17 FGA's during the playoffs? Lol, anti-Wilt fairy tales make Wilt's stories look as if Wilt has been given the truth serum. looking at each postseason separately, Wilt was the most dominant player for like 8 postseasons, especially given his personal (and team) competition.