GT: SACRAMENTO KINGS vs houston rockets: Boogie vs dwight? Wednesday 26th, 8PM ET

[KyrieTheFuture]

Just show them this

Defensive Rating
1. Tim Duncan-SAS 91.0
2. Andrew Bogut-GSW 91.4
3. Dwight Howard-HOU 93.1
4. Kawhi Leonard-SAS 93.8
5. Stephen Curry-GSW 95.6
6. Draymond Green-GSW 95.7
7. Larry Sanders-MIL 96.2
8. James Harden-HOU 96.6
9. Tony Allen-MEM 97.0
10. Chris Kaman-POR 97.1
11. Danny Green-SAS 97.2
12. Marc Gasol-MEM 97.4
13. Zach Randolph-MEM 97.6
14. Roy Hibbert-IND 98.1
15. Trevor Ariza-HOU 98.2
16. Kostas Papanikolaou-HOU 98.2
17. DeMarcus Cousins-SAC 98.2
18. Donatas Motiejunas-HOU 98.5
19. Anthony Davis-NOP 98.6
20. John Wall-WAS 99.0

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...5_leaders.html

His D is definitely better, but come on dude. You know that teammates greatly affect this stat that's why ****ing Steph Curry, Danny Green, Kostas and Donatas are on this list.

[YouGotServed]

Said it once and I'll say it again. The transformation is complete, James Harden is one of the best defenders in the NBA. Period.

[YouGotServed]

His D is definitely better, but come on dude. You know that teammates greatly affect this stat that's why ****ing Steph Curry, Danny Green, Kostas and Donatas are on this list.

What teammates? Black, Dorsey, Canaan, Terry?

Tell me, which of these outstanding defenders are responsible for inflating Harden's numbers?

[el_locoteee]

His D is definitely better, but come on dude. You know that teammates greatly affect this stat that's why ****ing Steph Curry, Danny Green, Kostas and Donatas are on this list.

Motiejunas is a pretty solid pf defender better than people think, he is a not a shoot blocker but a good position defender who is long and stay on his feet, sometimes gets in foul trouble but good defense, and Kostas is all hustle the guy struggling with the shoot so far in the NBA but he work pretty hard on defense and that's was his reputation in Europe is not a fluke.

So Harden have been without Beverly a Dwight for a big chunk of the season, so who are you attributing his rating?

[ronnymac]

But he had that bad play on the fastbreak against the Knicks. That negates his body of work this season according to the haters.

People are looking for any excuse to put him under the microscope. They will ignore all the improvement but the people with an agenda will go with what suits their agenda. You just have to ignore it.

[YouGotServed]

Motiejunas is a pretty solid pf defender better than people think, he is a not a shoot blocker but a good position defender who is long and stay on his feet, sometimes gets in foul trouble but good defense, and Kostas is all hustle the guy struggling with the shoot so far in the NBA but he work pretty hard on defense and that's was his reputation in Europe is not a fluke.

So Harden have been without Beverly a Dwight for a big chunk of the season, so who are you attributing his rating?

It's hilarious how before the season started the naysayers were like "Houston probably won't even make the playoffs. Look at that garbage roster they have."

Now that Harden is leading his team to W's both offensively and defensively the narrative has changrd. "It's not all Harden, look at old man Terry, the European 2nd rounder and Tarik Black. Harden is benefiting from his teammates."

The truth is Harden can win DPOY, MVP and FMVP in the season and he still won't get the respect he deserves. Let the haters be. They'll have to deal with reality sooner or later.

12-3 with no Howard, Jones and Beverley. We're also one of the best defensive teams in the NBA. Suck it haters.

[navy]

Harden is a good defender. When he tries.


He has been trying this season.

[KyrieTheFuture]

What teammates? Black, Dorsey, Canaan, Terry?

Tell me, which of these outstanding defenders are responsible for inflating Harden's numbers?

Come on you little shit you left out Ariza, Bev, and Dwight ****ing Howard

To El - He 100% is a great defender now, is he top 10? I can't honestly believe that.

[ABfor3]

Its funny how alot of posters here wont' give Harden credit when credit is due...hes been without Bev, Howard, and T Jones for majority of the season. Hes a good defender this year because hes actually been trying, and hes never been a bad defender, just a lazy one.

[el_locoteee]

Come on you little shit you left out Ariza, Bev, and Dwight ****ing Howard

To El - He 100% is a great defender now, is he top 10? I can't honestly believe that.

Beverly have missed 8 games and Howard 6 out of 15 games, is time for you to get informed.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Beverly have missed 8 games and Howard 6 out of 15 games, is time for you to get informed.

You're right they shouldn't count at all. I guess he's also won every single game by himself and scored 60 points a night. Jesus ****ing christ I can't believe how homerish every single rockets fan on this website is. You really can't just accept that he's a top 30-40 defender now he just has to be top 10 because finally a stat on defense works in his favor. He also leads the league in defensive win shares let's just give him DPOY

[YouGotServed]

Come on you little shit you left out Ariza, Bev, and Dwight ****ing Howard

To El - He 100% is a great defender now, is he top 10? I can't honestly believe that.

Rent free.

[Sakkreth]

So much actual game discussion here