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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    Quote Originally Posted by fpliii
    That was a team built around a star with a ton of role players. The star wasn't replaced by anyone serviceable.

    Also, the guys getting minutes on average were much worse the next season.

    09-10 Cavs
    LeBron James 2966
    Mo Williams 2359
    Anthony Parker 2289
    Anderson Varejao 2166
    J.J. Hickson 1691
    Delonte West 1500
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas 1339
    Shaquille O'Neal 1240
    Daniel Gibson 1068
    Jamario Moon 1052
    Antawn Jamison 811
    Jawad Williams 742
    Leon Powe 236
    Danny Green 115
    Darnell Jackson 114
    Sebastian Telfair 77
    Cedric Jackson 10
    Coby Karl 5

    10-11 Cavs
    J.J. Hickson 2256
    Ramon Sessions 2133
    Anthony Parker 2091
    Daniel Gibson 1865
    Antawn Jamison 1842
    Ryan Hollins 1182
    Mo Williams 1065
    Anderson Varejao 994
    Alonzo Gee 973
    Christian Eyenga 947
    Manny Harris 933
    Jamario Moon 764
    Samardo Samuels 701
    Joey Graham 586
    Luke Harangody 399
    Jawad Williams 391
    Baron Davis 380
    Leon Powe 187
    Semih Erden 64

    Not that it wasn't a terrific carry job. Clearly was.
    LeBron in 08-09 is the greatest regular season carry-job in NBA history. 09-10 is a close second.

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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    LeBron in 08-09 is the greatest regular season carry-job in NBA history. 09-10 is a close second.
    just look at lebron's 2009 and 2010 rosters - i see 10 very solid players on those Cavs teams... let's not be history revisionists - those teams were very deep.

    but as usual lebron underachieved against Dwight's Magic who he was favored against... that's the 4th time in his career that he had a team that was favored, but he lost.

    if he was really a top 10 all-time player, this wouldn't happen that many times.

    and it's 5 times if you include him losing as the favorite in high school.

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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    Jordan would be playing to win, not pass somebody on the all-time scoring list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    just look at lebron's 2009 and 2010 rosters - i see 10 very solid players on those Cavs teams... let's not be history revisionists - those teams were very deep.

    but as usual lebron underachieved against Dwight's Magic who he was favored against... that's the 4th time in his career that he had a team that was favored, but he lost.

    if he was really a top 10 all-time player, this wouldn't happen that many times.

    and it's 5 times if you include him losing as the favorite in high school.
    I see anderson varejao as the second best player on both rosters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    I see anderson varejao as the second best player on both rosters.
    when he played 30 games that second year

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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    Dave corzine.


    MJ made the playoffs with Dave corzine.


    A 6'11" with a 4 inch vertical.

    Yea. He would take this team to playoffs.

    He would get the most out of his teammates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by La Frescobaldi
    when he played 30 games that second year
    I was referring to the 09-10 and 08-09 rosters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    I was referring to the 09-10 and 08-09 rosters.
    Oh I see ya different story

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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    If Jordan can guard C, Power Foward and PG position, at the same time

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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    I see anderson varejao as the second best player on both rosters.
    you see wrongly because Mo Williams was a 17.8ppg scorer and an All-Star, while Antawn Jamison averaged 16ppg.

    You can't put Varejao's 8 ppg and 8 rebs over either.

    Can't even put Varejao over Shaq, who was still playing 23 minutes and giving you 12 ppg, 7 rebounds, and 1.2 blocks on 57% TS.

    Or Zydrunas for that matter, who was getting 13 and 8 and was a go-to post player..

    Again, a very deep team.. Delonte might have also been better than Varejao (athletic two-way player with a 3-point shot, 12 ppg).
    Last edited by 3ball; 11-30-2014 at 04:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    you see wrongly because Mo Williams was a 17.8ppg scorer and an All-Star, while Antawn Jamison averaged 16ppg.

    You can't put Varejao's 8 ppg and 8 rebs over either.

    Can't even put Varejao over Shaq, who was still playing 23 minutes and giving you 12 ppg, 7 rebounds, and 1.2 blocks on 57% TS.

    Or Zydrunas for that matter, who was getting 13 and 8 and was a go-to post player..

    Again, a very deep team.. Delonte might have also been better than Varejao (athletic two-way player with a 3-point shot, 12 ppg).
    I was letting the guy live the illusion. Off night.

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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    Heck no. The only twist would be, the media would be throwing he team under the bus rather Jordan. The media would give Jordan a free pass on taking a lot of shots and not passing. Because we all know how much of a competitor Jordan was. The media would spin the angle that Jordan wants to win so badly that he has to shoot for the Lakers to have any chance of winning. He is left with a D- League roster, the media would say. Hmmm. But the Lakers would not make the playoffs with this current roster and Jordan leading the way.

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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    Only if Kobe doesn't play.

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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    just look at lebron's 2009 and 2010 rosters - i see 10 very solid players on those Cavs teams... let's not be history revisionists - those teams were very deep.

    but as usual lebron underachieved against Dwight's Magic who he was favored against... that's the 4th time in his career that he had a team that was favored, but he lost.

    if he was really a top 10 all-time player, this wouldn't happen that many times.

    and it's 5 times if you include him losing as the favorite in high school.
    How stupid are you dawg? Since when dropping 38/8/8 in the ECF against the BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM is underachieving?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o4JDxQ0IE8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqJOf9v2e_s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70AUcQ3PzQ4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPT6QxoxEZg

    This is considered underachieving now?

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    Default Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?

    Quote Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
    Well, MJ took his 86-87 team into the first round, where they were swept. And that team had more surrounding talent than this Laker squad has.
    But was the EC in 86-87 as deep as this year's WC? I wouldn't say so.

    86-87 Bulls had a below .500 record and made the Playoffs, you'd need at least 48-50 wins to make the Playoffs in the current Western Conference.

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