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Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by fpliii
That was a team built around a star with a ton of role players. The star wasn't replaced by anyone serviceable.
Also, the guys getting minutes on average were much worse the next season.
09-10 Cavs
LeBron James 2966
Mo Williams 2359
Anthony Parker 2289
Anderson Varejao 2166
J.J. Hickson 1691
Delonte West 1500
Zydrunas Ilgauskas 1339
Shaquille O'Neal 1240
Daniel Gibson 1068
Jamario Moon 1052
Antawn Jamison 811
Jawad Williams 742
Leon Powe 236
Danny Green 115
Darnell Jackson 114
Sebastian Telfair 77
Cedric Jackson 10
Coby Karl 5
10-11 Cavs
J.J. Hickson 2256
Ramon Sessions 2133
Anthony Parker 2091
Daniel Gibson 1865
Antawn Jamison 1842
Ryan Hollins 1182
Mo Williams 1065
Anderson Varejao 994
Alonzo Gee 973
Christian Eyenga 947
Manny Harris 933
Jamario Moon 764
Samardo Samuels 701
Joey Graham 586
Luke Harangody 399
Jawad Williams 391
Baron Davis 380
Leon Powe 187
Semih Erden 64
Not that it wasn't a terrific carry job. Clearly was.
LeBron in 08-09 is the greatest regular season carry-job in NBA history. 09-10 is a close second.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
LeBron in 08-09 is the greatest regular season carry-job in NBA history. 09-10 is a close second.
just look at lebron's 2009 and 2010 rosters - i see 10 very solid players on those Cavs teams... let's not be history revisionists - those teams were very deep.
but as usual lebron underachieved against Dwight's Magic who he was favored against... that's the 4th time in his career that he had a team that was favored, but he lost.
if he was really a top 10 all-time player, this wouldn't happen that many times.
and it's 5 times if you include him losing as the favorite in high school.
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I brick nerf balls
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Jordan would be playing to win, not pass somebody on the all-time scoring list.
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Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by 3ball
just look at lebron's 2009 and 2010 rosters - i see 10 very solid players on those Cavs teams... let's not be history revisionists - those teams were very deep.
but as usual lebron underachieved against Dwight's Magic who he was favored against... that's the 4th time in his career that he had a team that was favored, but he lost.
if he was really a top 10 all-time player, this wouldn't happen that many times.
and it's 5 times if you include him losing as the favorite in high school.
I see anderson varejao as the second best player on both rosters.
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I brick nerf balls
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
I see anderson varejao as the second best player on both rosters.
when he played 30 games that second year
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454 Dumper
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Dave corzine.
MJ made the playoffs with Dave corzine.
A 6'11" with a 4 inch vertical.
Yea. He would take this team to playoffs.
He would get the most out of his teammates.
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Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by La Frescobaldi
when he played 30 games that second year
I was referring to the 09-10 and 08-09 rosters.
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I brick nerf balls
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
I was referring to the 09-10 and 08-09 rosters.
Oh I see ya different story
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Expert Analyst
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
If Jordan can guard C, Power Foward and PG position, at the same time
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
I see anderson varejao as the second best player on both rosters.
you see wrongly because Mo Williams was a 17.8ppg scorer and an All-Star, while Antawn Jamison averaged 16ppg.
You can't put Varejao's 8 ppg and 8 rebs over either.
Can't even put Varejao over Shaq, who was still playing 23 minutes and giving you 12 ppg, 7 rebounds, and 1.2 blocks on 57% TS.
Or Zydrunas for that matter, who was getting 13 and 8 and was a go-to post player..
Again, a very deep team.. Delonte might have also been better than Varejao (athletic two-way player with a 3-point shot, 12 ppg).
Last edited by 3ball; 11-30-2014 at 04:20 AM.
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I brick nerf balls
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by 3ball
you see wrongly because Mo Williams was a 17.8ppg scorer and an All-Star, while Antawn Jamison averaged 16ppg.
You can't put Varejao's 8 ppg and 8 rebs over either.
Can't even put Varejao over Shaq, who was still playing 23 minutes and giving you 12 ppg, 7 rebounds, and 1.2 blocks on 57% TS.
Or Zydrunas for that matter, who was getting 13 and 8 and was a go-to post player..
Again, a very deep team.. Delonte might have also been better than Varejao (athletic two-way player with a 3-point shot, 12 ppg).
I was letting the guy live the illusion. Off night.
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College superstar
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Heck no. The only twist would be, the media would be throwing he team under the bus rather Jordan. The media would give Jordan a free pass on taking a lot of shots and not passing. Because we all know how much of a competitor Jordan was. The media would spin the angle that Jordan wants to win so badly that he has to shoot for the Lakers to have any chance of winning. He is left with a D- League roster, the media would say. Hmmm. But the Lakers would not make the playoffs with this current roster and Jordan leading the way.
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WIND DEFENDER
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Only if Kobe doesn't play.
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by 3ball
just look at lebron's 2009 and 2010 rosters - i see 10 very solid players on those Cavs teams... let's not be history revisionists - those teams were very deep.
but as usual lebron underachieved against Dwight's Magic who he was favored against... that's the 4th time in his career that he had a team that was favored, but he lost.
if he was really a top 10 all-time player, this wouldn't happen that many times.
and it's 5 times if you include him losing as the favorite in high school.
How stupid are you dawg? Since when dropping 38/8/8 in the ECF against the BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM is underachieving?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o4JDxQ0IE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqJOf9v2e_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70AUcQ3PzQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPT6QxoxEZg
This is considered underachieving now?
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Re: Would prime MJ get this Laker team into the post-season?
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Well, MJ took his 86-87 team into the first round, where they were swept. And that team had more surrounding talent than this Laker squad has.
But was the EC in 86-87 as deep as this year's WC? I wouldn't say so.
86-87 Bulls had a below .500 record and made the Playoffs, you'd need at least 48-50 wins to make the Playoffs in the current Western Conference.
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