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Embiid > Jokic
Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
These three imo have a lot in common, the only real difference being Kobe was 21 while Wade & Drexler were 30 & 32 respectively. All 3 had GOAT level teammates at the peak of their powers, all finished with fairly similar numbers, and all 3 ended the season with similar accolades, with each finishing in the 10-15 range for MVP voting, while earning an All-NBA selection as well.
'95 Drexler: All-NBA 3rd Team, 14th in MVP voting
RS: 21, 7, 4 on 51%
PS: 21, 7, 5 on 48%
'00 Kobe: All-NBA 2nd Team, Defensive 1st Team, 12th in MVP voting
RS: 23, 6, 5 on 47%
PS: 21, 5, 4 on 44%
'12 Wade: All-NBA 3rd team, 10th in MVP voting
RS: 22, 5, 5 on 50%
PS: 23, 5, 4 on 46%
How would you rank these 3?
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Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
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... on a leash
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Damn near equals tbh.. But Drexler was alot more efficient in the playoffs than KB. Also didn't miss 2 games in the finals.
But still, it's like a 3-way tie imo. Would love to see some argumenst for each guy... and not the usual basics, we can see they're similar based on that.
Their performance in the conference finals and finals would likely be the tiebreaker...
Based on that... again, like a draw lol.
All had their best series' the previous 2 rounds.
Perhaps Wade since he had an ATG 3-game stretch to help turn around the Indiana ECSF.
G4: 30/9/6 on 57%
G5: 28/3/2 on 59%
G6: 41/10/3 on 68%
And possibly could still have played at superstar level if he had been the 1st option.
Last edited by ArbitraryWater; 12-13-2014 at 09:22 PM.
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NBA All-star
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
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Buck Dynasty
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
All these guys are better than their stats indicate. Are we examining these players according to what actually happened, or in a vacuum under normal circumstances? Because 2000 Kobe was actually pretty damn good before the ankle injury in the finals, dude was putting up 23/4/5/2/2 on 55% TS with great defense through the 1st 3 rounds, and played a huge role in clutch moments. He clearly wasn't the bonafide superstar he'd be the next year, but aside from that finals series he was really, really good.
And Wade imo was still a top-flight player and capable of leading a conference finals-level team given the right coach and a well built roster. Lebron haters will call him Flash, Lebron trolls will act like he was the same dude as the washed up version that showed up in the 2014 finals..but all in all he was still excellent. Better than any version of Harden aside from today's MVP-level version imo.
All healthy, I'd go with Wade, then Kobe, then Drexler. It's a close comparison.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Oscar Robertson 1971 finals with Kareem as FMVP:
23.5/5/9.5 on 52.3%
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National High School Star
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Wade and Drexlar > Kobe in the finals that's for sure.
16/5/4 on 37% FG while Shaq dropped 38/17/2 on 61% FG
not even his TS% can make him look decent, 41% TS
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Remembered this thread after seeing the "worst 2nd option" thread made earlier
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First Kobe fan on ISH
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
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Coach
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Stats?
Drexler
Wade
Kobe
Performance - Ability?
Wade
Drexler
Kobe
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Kooooooooooooooooooobriiiiiiiiiiiiiick
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Unfair comparison imo, Kobe was clearly injured while the other two were relatively healthy.
Do 01 Kobe, and now we're talking.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Originally Posted by JohnFreeman
Wade played great D
Kobe did too. It was his best defensive season imo.
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The Beast In Me
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Drexler
Wade
Kobe
Kobe was actually fantastic in the 2000 Regular Season (that was when he was truly an elite defensive guard). He was still very good in the Playoffs before the Finals, but he didn't live up to what he had done in the RS. Neither did Wade to be fair.
Reference Player Comparison Finder (might want to add this to the OP):
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01&p4=&p5=&p6=
Clyde's ORtg and OBPM (even though the data isn't good so it's not accurate) is crazy.
If it's just talent, Wade would be closer to Clyde. One played in the 90s West and the other played in the 10s East though.
Last edited by T_L_P; 01-26-2015 at 02:28 AM.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Rank these 3 championship second option SG's: '95 Drexler, '00 Kobe, '12 Wade
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
I thought 2k1 Kobe wasn't a "sidekick" though? Jesus you Kobe stans flip flop to fit your agenda.
Where did I say he was a sidekick in my post? The ni99a was playing hurt, compared to the other two options, it's not even a contest.
I'll say one thing though, could Drexler or Wade takeover a finals game with their best player fouled out while injured?
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