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NBA rookie of the year
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by 3ball
just the fact that kobe had the scoring versatility necessary (elite off-ball game) to execute the triangle to 5 rings, 2 without shaq, is a testament to how optimal kobe is CAPABLE of playing (we all know he can chuck now and then in the regular season and people blow it out of proportion).
Exactly.
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Playoff Rondo
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Well he took 23 shots in Game 7 of the Finals, only one less than Kobe did in the game you referenced. He managed to make more than 6 of those though
I would hope so, considering this was how the Spurs were defending LeBron the entire series...
http://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/...-antonio-spurs
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by Doranku
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Well he took 23 shots in Game 7 of the Finals, only one less than Kobe did in the game you referenced. He managed to make more than 6 of those though
indeed, he'd gotten a 2nd life after ray allen saved his career from being a literal laughing stock.
and he only averaged 17 shots per game in the 2014 Finals... which was not nearly enough...
infact, in 21 out of the 24 years since 1991, the team leader in shot attempts on the Finals-winning team took more than 25.56% of the team's shots - which means that the load Lebron took on in 2014 Finals (25.56% of his team's shots) was not a large load, and the notion that he couldn't have done more, or that no one else would have done more, is false - 21 out of the last 24 did more..
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Local High School Star
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
His bad brand of Basketball led to Five Rings. Do people realize Phil Jackson, you know arguably the greatest Coach of all time is why Kobe plays this style?
what? there's numerous quotes of Phil saying Kobe sometimes plays his own game and Phil disaproves..
a different thing is that Jackson could live with it, since ultimately, players can adapt to a system but coaches also adapt to the pieces they have.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by SpanishACB
what? there's numerous quotes of Phil saying Kobe sometimes plays his own game and Phil disaproves..
a different thing is that Jackson could live with it, since ultimately, players can adapt to a system but coaches also adapt to the pieces they have.
So? Phil is his best player's biggest criticizers and a master manipulator who uses mind **** tactics to motivate his players, whether thats blasting them through the media or punching them in the chest on the court. Phil is far from conventional coaching.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by 3ball
indeed, he'd gotten a 2nd life after ray allen saved his career from being a literal laughing stock.
and he only averaged 17 shots per game in the 2014 Finals... which was not nearly enough...
infact, in 21 out of the 24 years since 1991, the team leader in shot attempts on the Finals-winning team took more than 25.56% of the team's shots - which means that the load Lebron took on in 2014 Finals (25.56% of his team's shots) was not a large load, and the notion that he couldn't have done more, or that no one else would have done more, is false - 21 out of the last 24 did more..
How many players in history could overcome a great performance from their opposition while getting contributions like this from their "stacked" team
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...406120MIA.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...406150SAS.html
Honestly, what more is LeBron going to do in those games with those kinds of performances from his teammates?
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Local High School Star
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
So? Phil is his best player's biggest criticizers and a master manipulator who uses mind **** tactics to motivate his players, whether thats blasting them through the media or punching them in the chest on the court. Phil is far from conventional coaching.
and you're his conscience or just a try hard?
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Brotherhood of Red
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Phil had Shaq, MJ, Kobe, Bynum, Pipen, Gasol etc
He was just lucky with endless talent. He's never had a average roster. So his advice doesn't have as much weight as people give it.
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Brotherhood of Red
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by The Immortal
Bynum? Andrew Bynum?
Odom, Horace Grant, Tony Kukoc, Dennis Rodman.. hell even Ron Artest & Ariza imo >> Andrew Bynum
Exactly endless talent. You can't say Bynum wasn't a beast when healthy.
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Good college starter
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by Sharmer
Exactly endless talent. You can't say Bynum wasn't a beast when healthy.
A healthy and motivated Bynum was the best center in the league. The Lakers FO took a gamble and lost by choosing him over Gasol. If Bynum could have stayed healthy, the Lakers would have remained contenders. Also, if the FO had originally chosen Gasol over Bynum as the option forward, the team would have remained in contention. Gasol lost all motivation when it became obvious he would be on the trading block.
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NBA All-star
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
OP is pretty much a shining example of how terrible and stupid cavs fans are.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
That first shot in that video + the shot in OT have to be the toughest game tying/winning shots in NBA history, just god damn...
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Verticle?
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
You just said they defended Lebron the exact opposite way to prove a point. Then you go ahead and applaud that post?
You f*cking guppy. Can't even stay consistent.
You're losing the argument but you're too stupid to realize.
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NBA Legend
Re: How quickly Lebron fans forgetbe:
Its nice, when its going in.... if they included the misses aswell you would sit there your entire life until video finishes.... :P
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