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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    His cousin was more athletic and a better shooter.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Chadwin
    As in overall athleticsm?

    vertical, quickness, strength, etc...

    MJ
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    Dwight
    Athleticism isnt talent, unless your playing AAU ball.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Velocirap31
    His cousin was more athletic and a better shooter.
    And T-Mac was a better ball-handler, slasher, and playmaker.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacAttack
    Athleticism isnt talent, unless your playing AAU ball.
    The definition of talent includes athletic ability. But that's why I asked.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Have to agree, without a doubt.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
    Heh, not even close. I consider IQ to be part of talent and he's stupid as shit.
    Agreed, and you bring up an excellent point. The cerebral aspect of talent is extremely underrated. Too many people incorrectly equate talent to mean physical ability only.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Nope.

    Didn't have the defensive instincts, IQ, drive (not that he wasn't driven), or body to own that title.

    The most talented player was MJ. The perfect blend of height, speed, athleticism and smarts. Not to mention those hands.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by RightTwoCensor
    Toss-Up between T-Mac and Jamie Harden.

    Both wings that played like scoring PGs.
    McGrady was long and quick.
    Harden is strong and crafty.
    Both can shoot.
    Both can drive.
    Both can pass.
    Both can get to the FT Line.
    Both can deliver in the clutch.
    Both can rebound.
    Both can play above the rim.
    Both can handle the ball.
    disagree with this.

    tmac was superior to james, and that's no offense to harden

    harden can't play midrange or triple threat like tmac

    offensive arsenal isn't even a debate

    and with that said, yes T-Mac is the most talented.

    He filled components of athleticism and skill in a complimentary manner no player has done so IMO.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Chadwin
    As in overall athleticsm?

    vertical, quickness, strength, etc...

    MJ
    Bron
    Dwight
    < Shaq/Wilt

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by T_L_P
    Nope.

    Didn't have the defensive instincts, IQ, drive (not that he wasn't driven), or body to own that title.

    The most talented player was MJ. The perfect blend of height, speed, athleticism and smarts. Not to mention those hands.
    T-Mac came into the league and was primarily a defensive stopper in his first few years. He definitely had the instincts and the IQ.

    I think he's definitely in contention. McGrady didn't even start working out in-season before 02-03. Had this guy owned the drive and fire of say, Kobe or Jordan, we'd be looking at (barring injuries) a guy who would at worst be a Top 10 GOAT right now.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    I believe he had some of the best, if not the most, natural talent to work with.

    Still haven't seen anyone make basketball look as easy as he did. Past or present. And, fwiw, when he was on (ie; in the zone), I would probably take on fire TMac over any other player in their zone.
    Last edited by JimmyMcAdocious; 02-04-2015 at 06:42 PM.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    never shot over 45 % (his best years were before 04). since 04:
    04: 41 %
    05: 43 %
    06: 40%
    07: 43%
    08: 41 %

    and then it dropps down to the 38%-esque the followng years

    from 04-08 he was still in his "prime" earning 2 all-nba second and 2 all nba third teams. i would say you need a higher efficiency before being considered as themost talented ever
    Last edited by pastis; 02-04-2015 at 06:50 PM.

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    If you put Prime Tmac in todays NBA lmao

    The amount of ****ery you'd see would be astounding. I'm talking looking at the boxscores saying "Damn, Tmac had 60 again?"

    He didn't have more talent than Kobe tho

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyMcAdocious
    I believe he had some of the best, if not the most, natural talent to work with.

    Still haven't seen anyone make basketball look as easy as he did. Past or present. And, fwiw, when he was on (ie; in the zone), I would probably take on fire TMac over any other player in their zone.
    You'd take a zone Tmac over a in the zone Kobe? Idk man. Either way you'd get something special, but I just think in his zone Kobe was unmatched by anyone. Even Jordan.

    Jordan still goat tho.

    But Kobe in the zone

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    Default Re: True or False: Prime T-Mac is the most Talented Player ever

    How TF is prime Tmac even any convincingly better a specimen than Connie Hawkins let alone legitimate freak giants like Wilt Chamberlain or Shaquille O'Neal!? FFS

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