Has Kevin Love gotten better or worse playing with LeBron James?

[ShawkFactory]

Kyrie is clearly playing the best and most motivated ball of his career.

And no, Kevin Love hasn't gotten worse upon playing with Lebron

[Harison]

Kyrie

Lets see:

Kyrie 2014-15: 21.7/3.3/5.2 @46.4 FG%

Kyrie (sophomore): 22.5/3.7/5.9 @ 45.2 FG%

Even as sophomore Kyrie was better than with Lebron now.

Lets see per36:

Kyrie 2014-15: 20.9/3.1/5.0 @ 46.4 FG%

Kyrie (rookie): 21.8/4.4/6.4 @ 46.9 FG%

Kyrie as a 19 yrs rookie was also better than playing alongside Lebron Now considering Kyrie is unanimous answer who got "better", lets not forget how Wade, Bosh and Love got "better" too

[ShawkFactory]

Lets see:

Kyrie 2014-15: 21.7/3.3/5.2 @46.4 FG%

Kyrie (sophomore): 22.5/3.7/5.9 @ 45.2 FG%

Even as sophomore Kyrie was better than with Lebron now.

Lets see per36:

Kyrie 2014-15: 20.9/3.1/5.0 @ 46.4 FG%

Kyrie (rookie): 21.8/4.4/6.4 @ 46.9 FG%

Kyrie as a 19 yrs rookie was also better than playing alongside Lebron Now considering Kyrie is unanimous answer who got "better", lets not forget how Wade, Bosh and Love got "better" too

You don't know anything about basketball

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Kyrie and Bosh

Wade's efficiency peaked playing with LeBron, and so did his ring count

Also, Mozgov, Smith, Thompson, and Shump are all having great years w/ LeBron

Eh....for Mozgov, Shump and Smith the sample size is pretty small.

Kyrie's per-36 numbers this year are pretty much identical to his first 3 years in the league. Hes like the "groundhog day" of basketball players.

Wades TS% was .573 in his 4 years playing with LeBron, and .566 from 2004-2005 to 2009-2010. So, that's technically true....but that's to be expected, given that his usage was way lower.

Bosh's stats were decidedly better in Toronto, where he was an all-NBA guy.

Doesn't mean LeBron doesn't make guys better but I disagree with the examples you listed. IMO he made Mo Williams, Iggy, Chalmers, Battier (particularly in the finals), countless other long-range shooters, and yes Thompson better. He didn't make Bosh or Wade WORSE mind you, but i REALLY fail to see how he made them better. For Kyrie there's just no angle that would support that position -- hes pretty much the exact same player, with the defenders sagging off him SLIGHTLY because of LeBrons presence. But his production this year is indistinguishable from years prior.

mind you i *do* believe LBJ makes more guys than not better players. The only fella I can think of that LeBron seemed to make noticeably worse was Waiters. He went from having solid catch-and-shoot numbers to being a bum in that department. To pour salt on the wound, LeBron didn't hide the fact that he wasn't elated to be playing with him. And Love. But with Love I'll *still* say its too early. He wasn't exactly a force to be reckoned with when LeBron was out, either. We'll see how he is come playoff time.