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#Trump4Treason
James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
In games classified as clutch games (with 5 minutes left and a 5 point deficit). "MVP" Harden has led his team to a 9-11 45% record. Here are the last 7 MVPs and their record in games classified as "clutch" games.
2008 Kobe bryant 22-11 66.7%
2009 Lebron 24-7 77.4%
2010 Lebron 32-9 78.0%
2011 Rose 30-10 75%
2012 Lebron 15-10 60.0%
2013 Lebron 27-6 81.8%
2014 Durant 22-19 53.7%
2015 Curry 12-5 70%
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Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
you a bitch ass nigga...i cant think of any other way to articulate what im trying to say
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has a need for speed
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
Justifying Lebron's MVPs by his clutchness is ridiculous.
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"The One"
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
There is no such thing as "clutch games" you chubby geek.
Rose will always be known as the biggest MVP travesty in history.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
Originally Posted by Budadiiii
There is no such thing as "clutch games" you chubby geek.
Rose will always be known as the biggest MVP travesty in history.
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Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
... says the Derrick Rose stan.
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College superstar
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
Originally Posted by Top Gun
Justifying Lebron's MVPs by his clutchness is ridiculous.
Depends if you go by that one end all clutch play, or his play in so many fourth quarters leading up to or avoiding that last play..
is it better for ur team to be down 1-2 so u can make or miss the game. Or that instead your team has grabbed the lead by enough to be safe from that kind of play..
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Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
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has a need for speed
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
Originally Posted by Hittin_Shots
Depends if you go by that one end all clutch play, or his play in so many fourth quarters leading up to or avoiding that last play..
is it better for ur team to be down 1-2 so u can make or miss the game. Or that instead your team has grabbed the lead by enough to be safe from that kind of play..
I'm not gonna bother arguing as it's not worth it and I agree with your points somewhat.
It's the OP I disagree with, Harden is playing by far with the least talent.
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College superstar
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
2010 half of his games he was down 5 with 5 mins to go?
Wouldn't having a lesser amount of clutch games with similar winning record be better anyway? Not putting yourself in shIt situations is better than triumphing in those situations I'd have thought.
Last edited by Hittin_Shots; 03-04-2015 at 08:43 PM.
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College superstar
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
Originally Posted by Top Gun
I'm not gonna bother arguing as it's not worth it and I agree with your points somewhat.
It's the OP I disagree with, Harden is playing by far with the least talent.
Yea Harden would be perfectly fine getting MVP for his play this season.
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King of LA
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
lebron sure is clutch
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Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
You're a ****ing idiot, "clutch" numbers are just one of the moronic ways you try to prop up Rose's MVP/shit on other, better players. There is so much more to the MVP than clutch games.
2014-2015 Harden > 2010-2011 Rose, no question. Harden has been much more valuable to the Rockets and where they sit in the standings than Rose was to the Bulls, the Rockets without Harden aren't making the playoffs, the Bulls without Rose went 45-37 and 48-34.
I'll add that I really don't like Harden, and I'm still hoping that Westbrook somehow manages to win the MVP (90% chance this doesn't happen) but Harden's impact this season is undeniable. If he does win he'll be a deserving winner.
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has a need for speed
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
Plus Harden ranks highly in individual clutch stats this year.
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Rose is not a HOF
Re: James Harden winning the MVP will be a travesty.
Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
lebron sure is clutch[COLOR="White"](jk can't make free throws)[/COLOR]
nice white txt
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