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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beastmode88
    Wade: 234 minutes, 61%TS, 11%TRB, 28.7%AST, 2.1%STL, 3.6%BLK, 10.4%TOV, 30.2%USG, 120 ORTG. 22.7 GMSC.

    Lebron: 262 minutes, 54%TS, 10.6%TRB, 28.8%AST, 2.1%STL, 1%BLK, 19.5%TOV, 22.9%USG, 102 ORTG. 13.7 GMSC.

    in case you don't know what GMSC (gamescore) is, it is: rough measure of a player's productivity in a game. 10 = average performance. So Lebron is slightly above average in the series, while Wade is worth more than 2 average players.

    Wade beats Lebron in every stat except in AST% which is only .1% less. Think of it like this, Lebron was looking to pass on every possession and he still only ended up with the same assist rate as Wade, while wade was way more aggressive to score. All this while playing almost 30 minutes less than Lebron.

    look at their turnovers. Lebron was twice as likely to turn it over than Wade, you want the ball in his hands even more?

    Yeah but but but Wade sabotaged lebron!!! Lebrom should have 9 rings by now!!!

    1-9!!! **** everyone

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beastmode88
    Wade: 234 minutes, 61%TS, 11%TRB, 28.7%AST, 2.1%STL, 3.6%BLK, 10.4%TOV, 30.2%USG, 120 ORTG. 22.7 GMSC.

    Lebron: 262 minutes, 54%TS, 10.6%TRB, 28.8%AST, 2.1%STL, 1%BLK, 19.5%TOV, 22.9%USG, 102 ORTG. 13.7 GMSC.

    in case you don't know what GMSC (gamescore) is, it is: rough measure of a player's productivity in a game. 10 = average performance. So Lebron is slightly above average in the series, while Wade is worth more than 2 average players.

    Wade beats Lebron in every stat except in AST% which is only .1% less. Think of it like this, Lebron was looking to pass on every possession and he still only ended up with the same assist rate as Wade, while wade was way more aggressive to score. All this while playing almost 30 minutes less than Lebron.

    look at their turnovers. Lebron was twice as likely to turn it over than Wade, you want the ball in his hands even more?


    Damn.

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta

    No response as usual. SHOOK!!! Lol

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    bosh>>pippen yet 2/5

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Take Your Lumps
    Damn. MJ's been retired for over 12 years and he still dominates the minds of the ISH frontpage.

    He truly was the greatest
    I think this is mostly to tease/troll 3ball.

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragic4Life

    How many rings does mike win?
    Well, i'm assuming MJ gets to replace Pip with another 2nd option.

    and there are TONS better 2nd options than Pippen - here are a few: Magic Johnson, Kevin McHale, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal (to Wade), Kevin Durant, Lebron (to Wade)...

    Hell, with any of these guys, MJ wins at least 7 rings - I say at 7 is the floor, because he gets the same 6 he had with Pip, plus he makes the Finals in 1990 without Pip's ECF epic choke job... and with a superior #2 like Shaq or Magic alongside him, MJ wins in 1990 and probably every other year of his career tbh..
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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Can you explain mike's 1/9 record without Big Brother Pip?

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Well, i'm assuming MJ gets to replace Pip with another 2nd option.

    and there are TONS better 2nd options than Pippen - here are a few: Magic Johnson, Kevin McHale, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal (to Wade), Kevin Durant, Lebron (to Wade)...

    Hell, with any of these guys, MJ wins at least 7 rings - I say at 7 is the floor, because he gets the same 6 he had with Pip, plus he makes the Finals in 1990 without Pip's ECF epic choke job... and with a superior #2 like Shaq or Magic alongside him, MJ wins in 1990 and probably every other year of his career tbh..
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    Jordan wouldnt win a FMVP if he had any other player than Pippen, who was the perfect fit for MJ.

    MJ would be a Rip Hamilton, Celtics Ray Allen, or Manu Ginobli level player playing with true greats like Shaq, LeBron, or Kevin McHale as the 1st option

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    Jordan wouldnt win a FMVP if he had any other player than Pippen, who was the perfect fit for MJ.

    MJ would be a Rip Hamilton, Celtics Ray Allen, or Manu Ginobli level player playing with true greats like Shaq, LeBron, or Kevin McHale as the 1st option

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta

    MJ would be a Rip Hamilton, Celtics Ray Allen, or Manu Ginobli level player playing with true greats like Shaq, LeBron, or Kevin McHale as the 1st option
    Wow, just when you thought the dragic4life/dubeta agenda couldn't get any more stupid, it's now the "bash Larry Bird to prop up LeBron somehow" agenda.


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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Droid101
    Wow, just when you thought the dragic4life/dubeta agenda couldn't get any more stupid, it's now the "bash Larry Bird to prop up LeBron somehow" agenda.

    We don't need to bash Bird to "prop up" Lebron.

    Lebron James is already the GOAT SF. There is no comparison at all.

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Droid101
    Wow, just when you thought the dragic4life/dubeta agenda couldn't get any more stupid, it's now the "bash Larry Bird to prop up LeBron somehow" agenda.

    Fine, Larry Bird is better than Kobe. Happy?

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    Default Re: Take away Scottie "50 Greatest Players of All Time" Pippen.

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    Fine, Larry Bird is better than Kobe. Happy?
    Droid backed into a corner.

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