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Wilt Davis
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Hakeem was drafted ahead of Jordan, no one batted an eye and even now you don't really hear people getting on the Rockets case for doing it. All things considered it was the right/smart choice, especially back then when the conventional knowledge was big men win championships.
Hakeem enjoyed more team success early on than Jordan did. Problem is that Hakeem's team got worse while Jordan's got better. That wasn't Olajuwon's fault.
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Without hindsight, I draft Shaq.
WITH Hindsight, I still draft Shaq, ya ****in nutjobs. No way in hell I draft Jordan. Because if Jordan and Shaq entered the league at the same time, Jordan wouldn't be GOAT. No chance in hell Jordan goes for a perfect finals record with the MDE in the league at the same time as him.
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I rule the local playground
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
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Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Originally Posted by Marchesk
Hakeem enjoyed more team success early on than Jordan did. Problem is that Hakeem's team got worse while Jordan's got better. That wasn't Olajuwon's fault.
Who said it was?
And Hakeem had plenty of help throughout his career, even if the middle was a bit thin. Started his career forming the original twin towers with Ralph Sampson, made it to the finals. Had Clyde Drexler, Charles Barkley, and even a fresh off a championship with Jordan Pippen throughout the 90s. Only won rings when Jordan was gone.
WITH Hindsight, I still draft Shaq, ya ****in nutjobs. No way in hell I draft Jordan. Because if Jordan and Shaq entered the league at the same time, Jordan wouldn't be GOAT. No chance in hell Jordan goes for a perfect finals record with the MDE in the league at the same time as him.
MDE with a more talented team than his later Lakers got swept by the GOAT n 96 bruh.
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I can dunk
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
I'd take shaq even in hindsight. He made building a team so easy. As a gm I want that job security even if he leaves teams after every contract.
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Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
I'd pick Shaq, because I wouldn't have known that MJ would one day become the GOAT NBA player.
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Banned
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Originally Posted by Dee O Gee
I'd pick Shaq, because I wouldn't have known that MJ would one day become the GOAT NBA player.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
MJ would have won every single time Shaq lost with a stacked team (i.e. 1997 and 1998 WCF vs. Utah).
Whereas I can't say the same for Shaq - I can't say Shaq would have won with just Pippen and Grant - he's always needed a great backcourt to win... always.
So he can't win with no backcourt and just Pippen/Grant, especially considering he couldn't win with Eddie Jones, Van Exel, Kobe, Elden Campbell, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, Robert Horry - Jordan would have easily won the championship in both 1997 and 1998 with this team...
Oh wait - let's not forget 2004 Finals - in that series, Shaq's 27 PPG and 64% shooting had ZERO impact - so replace that with MJ's 35 PPG, ridiculous synergies with Kobe just taking basketball to that heavenly place, superior determination, defensive commitment (GOAT perimeter defense with MJ and Kobe) and leadership and that's a rap.
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Last edited by 3ball; 03-27-2015 at 01:34 AM.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Originally Posted by 3ball
MJ would have won every single time Shaq lost with a stacked team (i.e. 1997 and 1998 WCF vs. Utah).
Whereas I can't say the same for Shaq - I can't say Shaq would have won with just Pippen and Grant - he's always needed a great backcourt to win... always.
So he can't win with no backcourt and just Pippen/Grant, especially considering he couldn't win with Eddie Jones, Van Exel, Kobe, Elden Campbell, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, Robert Horry - Jordan would have easily won the championship in both 1997 and 1998 with this team...
Oh wait - let's not forget 2004 Finals - in that series, Shaq's 27 PPG and 64% shooting had ZERO impact - so replace that with MJ's 35 PPG, ridiculous synergies with Kobe just taking basketball to that heavenly place, superior determination, defensive commitment (GOAT perimeter defense with MJ and Kobe) and leadership and that's a rap.
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What's your opinion on ranking Shaq,Wilt, and Kareem?
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NBA All-star
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrss.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Out of college, you would pick Shaq.
Originally Posted by imdaman99
Jordan. Shaq quit on multiple teams and couldn't co-exist with someone that was more marketable than him. First Penny, than Kobe, and lastly Wade. Talk about jealous and insecure
I don't think any of them were more marketable than Shaq. The one that came closes was probably penny in his prime, but Shaq was just too appealing for the mainstream, non basketball fans.
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I usually hit open layups
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Originally Posted by Dresta
With hindsight, obviously not. Shaq just doesn't have the focus, patience, attitude and determination to succeed with a single team for an extended period of time. Eventually he always got bored and/or lazy, blamed others for these things, and then left whatever team he was on, burning bridges as he left.
Basically, Shaq was never winning 6 titles for the team that drafted him. Jordan could (and did).
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Life goes on.
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Shaq. I think if shaq was drafted to a better organization to start he might have stayed. I think shaq was too good with too little work so he needed someone to challenge him in a different way than people before phil did.
If you know you can be a top 3 player just by stepping on the court from your second year onward and dominate anyone on a given night, why would you work? Mj worked because if he slipped he could fall off.
Shaq needed goals that were unreachable and intangible.
-Smak
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ruckus for president
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
without knowing : shaq 10 out of 10.
knowing: shaq 10 out of 10.
lol, any coach, manager or competent basketball fan would pick shaq 10 out 10. There is nobody in history you pick over shaq in an all-time draft.
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ruckus for president
Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Originally Posted by ILLsmak
Shaq. I think if shaq was drafted to a better organization to start he might have stayed. I think shaq was too good with too little work so he needed someone to challenge him in a different way than people before phil did.
If you know you can be a top 3 player just by stepping on the court from your second year onward and dominate anyone on a given night, why would you work? Mj worked because if he slipped he could fall off.
Shaq needed goals that were unreachable and intangible.
-Smak
spot on, leave to an amateur team like orlando to squander prime years out of talent like shaq, howard, mcgrady ..
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Re: Would you draft a 20 yrs.old Shaquille O'Neal over a 21 yrs.old Michael Jordan??
Originally Posted by 3ball
MJ would have won every single time Shaq lost with a stacked team (i.e. 1997 and 1998 WCF vs. Utah).
Whereas I can't say the same for Shaq - I can't say Shaq would have won with just Pippen and Grant - he's always needed a great backcourt to win... always.
So he can't win with no backcourt and just Pippen/Grant, especially considering he couldn't win with Eddie Jones, Van Exel, Kobe, Elden Campbell, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, Robert Horry - Jordan would have easily won the championship in both 1997 and 1998 with this team...
Oh wait - let's not forget 2004 Finals - in that series, Shaq's 27 PPG and 64% shooting had ZERO impact - so replace that with MJ's 35 PPG, ridiculous synergies with Kobe just taking basketball to that heavenly place, superior determination, defensive commitment (GOAT perimeter defense with MJ and Kobe) and leadership and that's a rap.
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this proves you are a idiot
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