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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
I don't have time for this
That's okay - none of it matters - MJ was an off-ball player and therefore didn't rely on dribble penetration like today's wings anyway.
Ironically, off-ball players actually benefit THE MOST from spacing, less physicality and enhanced ball movement, so the only question is which part of Jordan's game would go MORE bananas in today's game - his off-ball game that had the fastest isolation pace ever, or his GOAT ball-dominator game?.
He's the only guy ever that was elite at everything - the guy could morph into Stephan Curry in the 1992 Finals if needed, or score 55 in the playoffs on all JJ Redick catch-and-shoot - whatever the defense gave him, he'd use elite ability to exploit.
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Local High School Star
Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by Poetry
I was just reading about how youth participation in sports, including basketball, has been declining for years in the US. Kids are no longer as interested in playing sports as they once were.
Sweet and Sour Sauce?
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Local High School Star
Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by KirbyPls
Sweet and Sour Sauce?
Here's a similar one to the study I read:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...50892629229918
It's happening in Europe too. The fear over there is that the "soccer" pool is shrinking.
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Rose is not a HOF
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XXL
Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by Beastmode88
Imagine a jordan with harden's amount of free throws?
Implying he didn't already get preferential treatment...
But yes valid point
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Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by Beastmode88
Imagine a jordan with harden's amount of free throws?
Jordan's career FTA/G is higher than Harden's. His highest single season FTA/G (11.9) is higher than Harden's too (10.2).
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Laker Gang #COYG
Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by Beastmode88
Imagine a jordan with harden's amount of free throws?
Harden FTA/game for career - 7.1
Harden career high FTA/game - 10.2
Jordan FTA/game for career - 8.2 (8.7 with Chicago)
Jordan career high FTA/game - 11.9
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Local High School Star
Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by Beastmode88
Imagine a jordan with harden's amount of free throws?
This is Harden highest scoring year. He gets 10.1 FTA on 11.2 2PA.
In '86-87 Jordan had 11.9 FTA on 27 2PA.
Is it possible that he would get 18 to 26 FTA a game?
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Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by 24-Inch_Chrome
Jordan's career FTA/G is higher than Harden's. His highest single season FTA/G (11.9) is higher than Harden's too (10.2).
Context matters.
Harden takes 18 shots a game to average 10 free throws. You know how many shots Jordan had to take to average to get 11.9 free throws? 28 freakin shots a game. Jordan had to be ULTRA aggressive to get as many free throws as Harden now.
You know what makes it even worse? Jordan shot no threes whatsoever. His game was slashing and midrange. You know how many 3 pointers Harden averages? 7 freakin threes a game. 1/3 of his shots are threes and he STILL gets 10 free throws a game
Zo sees that kind of shit and people wonder why he spouts the hyperbole If Harden is getting to the line constantly shooting a ton of threes guess how many times young Jordan would get to the line with his speed and quickness in this weak era?
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Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Surprise, surprise. The Nostalgia ridden retards from the 90s are all the same.
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Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
2014 RS Durant is arguably > Jordan as a scorer. He's not putting up 50, period. Maybe 35 if he were taking 27 or 28 shots a game.
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NBA Legend
Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by hitmanyr2k
Context matters.
Harden takes 18 shots a game to average 10 free throws. You know how many shots Jordan had to take to average to get 11.9 free throws? 28 freakin shots a game. Jordan had to be ULTRA aggressive to get as many free throws as Harden now.
You know what makes it even worse? Jordan shot no threes whatsoever. His game was slashing and midrange. You know how many 3 pointers Harden averages? 7 freakin threes a game. 1/3 of his shots are threes and he STILL gets 10 free throws a game
Zo sees that kind of shit and people wonder why he spouts the hyperbole If Harden is getting to the line constantly shooting a ton of threes guess how many times young Jordan would get to the line with his speed and quickness in this weak era?
Jordan didn't have to deal with zone defense.
Harden does.
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Rose is not a HOF
Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by 24-Inch_Chrome
Jordan's career FTA/G is higher than Harden's. His highest single season FTA/G (11.9) is higher than Harden's too (10.2).
James harden has only been a starter for 3 years..
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Rose is not a HOF
Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by Poetry
This is Harden highest scoring year. He gets 10.1 FTA on 11.2 2PA.
In '86-87 Jordan had 11.9 FTA on 27 2PA.
Is it possible that he would get 18 to 26 FTA a game?
Yes that's very possible with the way MJ attacks the paint. They call the softest touch fouls I've ever seen. If you breathed on MJ he'd probably get fouled today.
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Re: Alonzo Mourning talks Jordan in this era
Originally Posted by Beastmode88
James harden has only been a starter for 3 years..
I was just putting the numbers out there, no agenda. Obviously context changes it, I just wasn't feeling typing out a mini-essay.
Originally Posted by hitmanyr2k
Context matters.
Harden takes 18 shots a game to average 10 free throws. You know how many shots Jordan had to take to average to get 11.9 free throws? 28 freakin shots a game. Jordan had to be ULTRA aggressive to get as many free throws as Harden now.
You know what makes it even worse? Jordan shot no threes whatsoever. His game was slashing and midrange. You know how many 3 pointers Harden averages? 7 freakin threes a game. 1/3 of his shots are threes and he STILL gets 10 free throws a game
Zo sees that kind of shit and people wonder why he spouts the hyperbole If Harden is getting to the line constantly shooting a ton of threes guess how many times young Jordan would get to the line with his speed and quickness in this weak era?
Thankfully someone was.
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