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    Default The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    It was considered incredibly "weak" at the time. Looking back on it, there are a hell of a lot of impact players in today's league that came from the 2011 draft.

    There are four guys who are considered elite at their respective positions and then a slew of good to serviceable players.

    Top Tier
    Kyrie Irving
    Kawhi Leonard
    Klay Thompson
    Jimmy Butler

    Solid Tier
    Chandler Parsons
    Enes Kanter
    Nikola Vucevic
    Nikola Mirotic
    Tristan Thompson
    Kenneth Faried
    Jonas Valanciunas
    Markieff Morris
    Reggie Jackson
    Isaiah Thomas
    Kemba Walker
    Iman Shumpert
    Tobias Harris
    Donatas Motiejunas
    Brandon Knight

    Serviceable Tier
    Alec Burks
    Marcus Morris
    Bojan Bogdanovic
    Norris Cole
    Jon Leuer
    Cory Joseph


    Turned out to be a pretty deep draft.

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Brandon Knight should be a tier higher

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Every draft has 20 guys that'll stick around for 5-10 years, that's the way the league works. People overrate recent drafts that when they consists of multiple NBA Players. The drafts that deserve praise are the one's that feature multiple Hall of Famers/Transcendent Players within 5 years of the time they were drafted.

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    it's actually really good

    the only drafts since 2000 that are better are 03, 07-09

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Quote Originally Posted by Imtheman
    Brandon Knight should be a tier higher
    I can see that. It just felt weird putting Knight on the same level as Parsons and the others at the better end of that group. I probably should have split it into four but that was too much work.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightTwoCensor
    Every draft has 20 guys that'll stick around for 5-10 years, that's the way the league works. People overrate recent drafts that when they consists of multiple NBA Players. The drafts that deserve praise are the one's that feature multiple Hall of Famers/Transcendent Players within 5 years of the time they were drafted.

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    There aren't just great drafts and good drafts. Some drafts are horrendous -- like 2013 -- and some drafts are expected to be really bad (like 2011), but turn out to be far better than expectations.

    That's what we're beginning to see here. When you have four guys at the top that are legitimately key pieces on four of the best teams in the league and then 20 other guys who are either good or contributing, that's a solid draft.

    It stacks up pretty well against other drafts from the last decade or so, and that is just as some of these guys are beginning to show their worth.

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    I agree that Knight should be a tier higher but yeah, it's not too bad a draft. A lot of the better players took a while to develop.

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Why only one Morris

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Alright, I moved Knight up a group. Also, I forgot about Mirotic who was drafted that year.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreezingTsmoove
    Why only one Morris
    Added Marcus.

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Man whatever happened to MarShon Brooks? People loved that kid his first season on the Nets.

    I still can't figure out how Derrick Williams busted so hard either, dude had (has?) all the tools.

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
    I can see that. It just felt weird putting Knight on the same level as Parsons and the others at the better end of that group. I probably should have split it into four but that was too much work.



    There aren't just great drafts and good drafts. Some drafts are horrendous -- like 2013 -- and some drafts are expected to be really bad (like 2011), but turn out to be far better than expectations.

    That's what we're beginning to see here. When you have four guys at the top that are legitimately key pieces on four of the best teams in the league and then 20 other guys who are either good or contributing, that's a solid draft.

    It stacks up pretty well against other drafts from the last decade or so, and that is just as some of these guys are beginning to show their worth.
    I agree with most of what you said but I think if you judged the 2011 2 years ago (same time period you are using on the 2013) you wouldn't have nearly as many good players on your list. Another 2 years and I think we see some of the medicore players from the 2013 draft improve more. I agree it doesn't look like it's been a great draft but I don't think it will go down as horrendous given more time.

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Vucevic should be top tier...20/10 and young. come on!

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Quote Originally Posted by beastee
    Vucevic should be top tier...20/10 and young. come on!
    he dont play no defense

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Nikola Vucevic should be a top tier. he has a bright future. already multiple games of 20/20..

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    Quote Originally Posted by bobopenguin
    Nikola Vucevic should be a top tier. he has a bright future. already multiple games of 20/20..
    no defense

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    Default Re: The 2011 Draft is looking better and better in retrospect

    You usually have to give drafts 3 years or so before you can make real judgments about them. Some drafts are loaded with top tier talent that are immediately impactful, like someone pointed out 84, 96 (even though Kobe took 3 years to develop), 2003. '11 was a solid class from top to bottom.

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