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well well well
Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
dude be clanking like theres no tomorrow
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Guy is out there battling it out and putting it on the line for the team through injury.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
SA clank city, LA choke city
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College superstar
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
I fail to see why Patty who was hot gets so few minutes and Parker who is stinking up the joint gets so much. Why does Pop make it harder for them to win?
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by rmt
I fail to see why Patty who was hot gets so few minutes and Parker who is stinking up the joint gets so much. Why does Pop make it harder for them to win?
He doesn't trust Mills not to make dumb mistakes, which he does. Also, mills doesn't do a good job running the offense. Mills is a guy that if you lean on him to much you risk losing the great production your already getting. Pop has been here with this type of guy and knows how to handle them.
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Curry fam
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
Guy is out there battling it out and putting it on the line for the team through injury.
lol more like inventing a new injury every game to explain why he's out of shape and garbage.
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Curry fam
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
He doesn't trust Mills not to make dumb mistakes, which he does. Also, mills doesn't do a good job running the offense. Mills is a guy that if you lean on him to much you risk losing the great production your already getting. Pop has been here with this type of guy and knows how to handle them.
The thing is that Mills inability to run the offense makes the team better because the ball movemnt is there to find him open shots and the team open.When he's not in they basically take turns on offense. Tony Parker has been a net negative on this team for two straight years now while Mills has one of the best plus minus. It's not a coincidence.
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by navy
The thing is that Mills inability to run the offense makes the team better because the ball movemnt is there to find him open shots and the team open. Tony Parker has been a net negative on this team for two straight years now while Mills has one of the best plus minus. It's not a coincidence.
You miss the entire reason why Parker is important. It's his ability as a ball handler to be a triple threat and to get points at the rim, which SAS often struggle with...the fact that he can do it outside of the offense also makes him valuable.
But hey, they won a title last year with Parker and are looking to advance past a tough Clippers team. You don't sit you trusted guy for a wild card w poor decision making skills in the playoffs.
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Curry fam
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
You miss the entire reason why Parker is important. It's his ability as a ball handler to be a triple threat and to get points at the rim, which SAS often struggle with...the fact that he can do it outside of the offense also makes him valuable.
But hey, they won a title last year with Parker and are looking to advance past a tough Clippers team. You don't sit you trusted guy for a wild card w poor decision making skills in the playoffs.
Stop. He hasnt been a postive for this team in years. Not statistically, not with advanced stats, not in the eye test. You can look at any measure and see that Mills is better for the team than he is. Stop making excuses. It's been this way for a while now and it wont magically change. He's valuable in the sense that when he's playing well you can leave him in there, but more often then not he hurts the team. The Spurs won games with Tony Parker sitting out in the playoffs. That should tell you all you need to know.
If you want to win Mills is your guy.
If you want someone to isolate for the last shot of the game then naturally the ball should go to Parker. Although Pop prefers Manu to a fault.
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by navy
Stop. He hasnt been a postive for this team in years. Not statistically, not with advanced stats, not in the eye test. You can look at any measure and see that Mills is better for the team than he is. Stop making excuses. It's been this way for a while now and it wont magically change.
The Spurs won games with Tony Parker sitting out. That should tell you all you need to know.
If you want to win Mills is your guy.
If you want someone to isolate for the last shot of the game then naturally the ball should go to Parker. Although Pop prefers Manu.
If you think Mills can handle 35 minutes a game then you just don't get it. It's a fine line between maximizing a player and overwhelming him. Pop walks that line very well and that is why he can get so much out of guys like Mills and Neal.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by navy
The thing is that Mills inability to run the offense makes the team better because the ball movemnt is there to find him open shots and the team open.When he's not in they basically take turns on offense. Tony Parker has been a net negative on this team for two straight years now while Mills has one of the best plus minus. It's not a coincidence.
And by "net negative" you of course don't actually mean he has a negative +/- when he's on the floor (like tonight how he was positive). We all get that our bench is better than the other team's, but you might want to change your wording. It's not like the team is getting beat when he's on the floor.
So far in this particular series the Spurs are +19 overall with Parker on the floor. Just FYI.
Last edited by ninephive; 04-29-2015 at 02:38 AM.
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Curry fam
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
If you think Mills can handle 35 minutes a game then you just don't get it. It's a fine line between maximizing a player and overwhelming him. Pop walks that line very well and that is why he can get so much out of guys like Mills and Neal.
Team would be better with Mario Chalmers than Tony Parker.
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Curry fam
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by ninephive
And by "net negative" you of course don't actually mean he has a negative +/- when he's on the floor (like tonight how he was positive). We all get that our bench is better than the other team's, but you might want to change your wording. It's not like the team is getting beat when he's on the floor.
By net negative, I mean he sucks but the other starters carry him to a positive.
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Local High School Star
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Spurs have been playing with fire.
They're gonna eventually die by the 3. The bench isn't invincible.
And going forward, HOU/GSW/MEM have better benches than LAC- and even here, the Spurs are two fortunate breaks from being in trouble.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: Parker should thank Diaw and Griffin
Originally Posted by navy
By net negative, I mean he sucks but the other starters carry him to a positive.
Oh yah my bad...I forgot about that. In other words, we'll use Parker's +/- against him when it's negative, but when it's positive we'll credit it to the other starters. Got it.
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