Top 5 defenses of all time?

[Cold soul]

No order:

1989 Pistons

1994 Knicks

1996 Bulls

2004 Pistons

2008 Celtics

[Cold soul]

Honorable mentioned 2010 Celtics.

[NBASTATMAN]

1992-94 Knicks
2003-05 Pistons
1988-90 Pistons
1996 Bulls
2008 Celts


Honorable mention
1998 Heat
2004 Indiana Pacers( THEY WERE RATED A BETTER DEFENSE THAN 2004 PISTONS

[NBASTATMAN]

Honorable mentioned 2010 Celtics.

DWade destroyed that defense..

[Wade's Rings]

DWade destroyed that defense..

33/6/7/2/1.5 shooting 56% with a TS% of 65%

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Not convinced there isn't a top 5 defense which didn't win the championship in their season.

[dubeta]

33/6/7/2/1.5 shooting 56% with a TS% of 65%

And lost in the 1st round

[BlazerRed]

1. 2015 Warriors

2. 2007 Spurs

3. 2011 Mavs

4. 2014 Spurs

5. 2012 Thunder

#noexcuses

[Wade's Rings]

And lost in the 1st round

[rmt]

I'd like to nominate the Spurs during Duncan's prime:

Year Defensive Rank/Rating Opponent pts/game
97-98 2nd/99.4 1st
98-99 1st/95 3rd
99-00 2nd/98.6 1st
00-01 1st/98 3rd
01-02 2nd/99.7 3rd
02-03 3rd/99.7 3rd
03-04 1st/94.1 1st
04-05 1st/98.8 1st
05-06 1st/99.6 2nd
06-07 2nd/99.9 1st
07-08 3rd/101.8 3rd
08-09 5th/104.3 2nd

It's a shame he never won a DPOY award.

[Wade's Rings]

It's a shame he never won a DPOY award.

What years could/should he have won it?

[Young X]

'94 Knicks

- 98.2 DRtg in the regular season
- 100.0 DRtg in the playoffs

Ewing
Oakley
Mason
Starks
Harper

Coach: Pat Riley

Elite perimeter and interior defense led by an all time great defender in Ewing. Extremely physical team and tough as nails.

[T_L_P]

What years could/should he have won it?

Definitely deserved it in 07. I personally think he should have won it in 13 too.

[rmt]

What years could/should he have won it?

2007. Camby won because voters are dazzled by his stats.

Player Rebounds / Blks / Defensive Win Shares / Defensive Box Plus Minus
Camby 11.7 rebs / 3.3 blks / 5.1 / 6.7
Duncan 10.6 rebs / 2.4 blks / 6.8 / 5.1

but most importantly did those stats translate into helping the team defensively:

Team Defensive Rank/Rating Opp Pts/game
Nugs 11th/105.9 26th
Spurs 2nd/99.9 1st

What my gripe is - that they change the criteria every year - they are not consistent in how they judge. One year - it's stats. Another year - it's how good the team was defensively - see Marc Gasol - even then, he doesn't get penalized by having Allen and Conley on his team and Duncan/Bowen always were for having each other.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

08 Celtics - best defender of the past era and prolly since Russell finally has a decent supporting defense in his last prime year (he anchored strong defenses later too, the best D in 12 too with no other bigs)

04 Pistons - after the Sheed trade they were on another level, there was a stretch of games where they held teams consistently under 70. Playoff defense was incredible, Sheed in the post and Ben for more help was scary

93 Knicks - what Young X said

15 Warriors - best playoff D since 04 Pistons, the defensive talent is insane. They could guard so many matchups, so versatile. Draymond, Bogut and Iggy are top 5 defenders. Then Klay, Barnes, Livingston, Ezeli? Omm BEAST

03 Spurs - Completely stacked defense with a GOAT level defensive coach. DRob, Timmy, Manu, Bowen, Rose SJax