Kobe vs Shaq- who do you rank higher all time?

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Shaq all day

[PsychoBe]

Nobody separates Juilus Erving's ABA Career from his NBA Career in All-Time ranking, it's a simple habit to include the two even if people ask for All-Time greatest NBA players.

And Larry Bird isn't inclined to forever be in the Top 10. Lebron James has surpassed him in the All-Time rankings, Bird is now known to the general public as the 2nd Greatest SF in NBA History, yet at the same time Lebron hasn't eclipsed some of the NBA's Greatest Centers and of course Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, and Oscar Robertson. You can't try to fit Bird in the top 10 if the player who's already eclipsed him isn't head of 10 other players. Nobody is saying Bird's not great or an All-Time great, the All-Time list is just growing with more accomplished players.

You keep taking this as a bash toward Larry Bird, it's not. Welcome to the future, more players will continue to be great.

i was commenting that it's "harder" to look at his career overall in retrospect due to the fact that he was apart of two different leagues.

i'm not sure where this comes from but any credible basketball mind will tell you that bran has most certainly not passed bird up yet.

bird was a legend, a better shooter, better passer, more clutch, better rebounder, never shot 25% outside of 5 feet, and his career numbers are comparable to bran's even with his decline in injuries. once bran's numbers inevitably take a dive as he gets older then his inflated numbers will come back down to earth.

then you have to take in account bran plays in an infinitely weaker conference than bird ever has (imagine larry bird against the "great" gilbert arenas wizards) and you'll realize that overall bird is still superior.

[Fallen Angel]

>Sees the word "Bran"
>Average idiot main forumer

Opinion ignored.

[Cold soul]

Kobe but Shaq was the better player.

[nzahir]

Equal amount of mvps but
3 fmvps>2 fmvps
Shaq's prime is up there or the best of mj, lebron, bird
/thread

[PistonsFan#21]

1. Michael Jordan

2. Jerry West

3. George Gervin

4. D-Wade

5. Sam Jones


Best SG's of all-time

Damn how did Bran lose twice with a top 4 SG of all time??

[Combat Wombat]

Shaq and its not that close

It is if you watched the NBA BEFORE Lebron joined up with the rest of the super best friends in 2010, so that rules you out, child.

[COLOR="White"]Stupid team-hopping C#nt.[/COLOR]

[julizaver]

Who you got? I think it's real close, maybe a slight edge to Kobe tho.

Shaq of course. Too much arguments for the last dominant big man. Every NBA coach if start a team would take Shaq over Kobe.

[Genaro]

I have Duncan, Kobe and Shaq virtually tied and I don't have a problem with those who disagree but I go with Kobe on this one.

[warriorfan]

Remember when Dr. J was MJ status before MJ? Me too, and now he's chilling in the 15-20 range.

Dr J in the 15-20 range?

yeah you don't know shit about bball