when Kobe hangs them up where will he be on the GOAT list

[SwayDizzle]

#5 most likely scenario
and well deserved

[Quickening]

11

[riseagainst]

top 6

[nba_55]

LOL

[nzahir]

#5 most likely scenario
and well deserved

LMFAO, with 2 fmvps and 1 mvp? Top 10 for sure, but not top 5 unless he wins another fmvp and either wins an mvp or has a great year. He will be in that 6-9 range depending on who you ask. Lebron has multiple shots at more fmvps and rings to push him above kobe, duncan still has another shot or 2

[Beastmode88]

I have him around 7-8 on my list but will probably be 6 or 7 when it's all said and done. You can say he was carried by shaq but shaq couldn't do it without kobe as well.

[turret]

Only goat Kobe will get a glimpse of is playing the game on Waiting.....

[PP34Deuce]

I got Kobe at 10-12.

In no particular order

Jordan
Shaq
Magic
Bird
Hakeem
Lebron
Kareem
Tim Duncan

after that, everyone else between 9-15 can be interchangable I feel. Each of those guys changed and dominated at a certain period.

[Droid101]

A really mature person might use the eye test and say number 3.

I'm guessing that non-LeBron fans will put him between 5-9 though. Which is tough but fair.

branstans will have him 11 or lower, showing their true colors as usual.

[PP34Deuce]

A really mature person might use the eye test and say number 3.

I'm guessing that non-LeBron fans will put him between 5-9 though. Which is tough but fair.

branstans will have him 11 or lower, showing their true colors as usual.

Longevity and elite play has been his main advantage. As far as dominating and guaranteeing you a championship? Kobe is not better at providing that than the guys I mentioned.

Lebron,Shaq,Kareem,MJ, Bird,Hakeem all guaranteed you 50 plus wins and consistently going to a conference finals to compete for a championship.

Kobe guarantees you the playoffs.

[Knoe Itawl]

I have him in the 11/12 - 15 range.

[nzahir]

A really mature person might use the eye test and say number 3.

I'm guessing that non-LeBron fans will put him between 5-9 though. Which is tough but fair.

branstans will have him 11 or lower, showing their true colors as usual.

Lmfao eye test isnt a real thing bro, thats why no respected analyst, WHO IS PAID to talk about sports, uses it. They use numbers. You probably listen to Skip Bayless.
Not a kobe fan but I got him in that 6-9 range. Hell end up on the lower end of it probably b/c lebron may win some more rings and fmvps and keep breaking records

[SuperPippen]

His career is effectively over. Yea, I know he'll still probably play a couple more years in desperate pursuit of a sixth ring, but if he does win one, he definitely won't be the best player on the team, which is the same argument Kobe stans use to discredit Duncan and his rings.


Regardless, I have at #8 all-time. Anyone who say's he's outside the top ten is insane, IMO.

[jlip]

Kobe's ranking will more than likely not change between now and whenever he "hangs them up" no matter how long he plays. So wherever you have him now is probably where he will end.

[tpols]

Longevity and elite play has been his main advantage. As far as dominating and guaranteeing you a championship? Kobe is not better at providing that than the guys I mentioned.

Lebron,Shaq,Kareem,MJ, Bird,Hakeem all guaranteed you 50 plus wins and consistently going to a conference finals to compete for a championship.

Kobe guarantees you the playoffs.

Kobe's teams have gone just as far competing for a championship year in and year out outside a couple years.. where he had very poor help in a statistically superior conference.


Kareem with poor/mediocre rosters could only drag to 40 something wins in the 70s.. even missed the playoffs.

Hakeem got bounced in the first round countless times when he had poor help.

MJ before he had help and scottie matured was not competing for championships.. he was getting swept out of the playoffs in the first round.

ect. etc.

So.. this is just wrong.


How a guy that has played in as many playoff rounds as anyone and gone full four rounds 7 times.. hasn't been consistently competing for championships lol.. makes no sense.