Why aren't the Hawks the consensus 2nd seed?

[Richesly]

They lost DeMarre Carroll, sure, but obtained Splitter! And Raptors can have Carroll for ****in $15M a year... jesus.

Obtained Tim Hardaway Jr. who is the scorer that we needed. Millsap is still a defensive monster and will be most likely playing the 3 which he is capable of doing as a stretch 4 with a good set of post moves.

Line up:
Teague/Schroder/Mack
Korver/Hardaway/Jenkins
Millsap/Sefolosha/Bazemore
Horford/Scott/Muscala
Splitter/Tavares/Brand most likely

For those who don't know who and what Tavares can do, a quick google search can fix that.

This team will be the ship team.

And we also have Dimitrios Agravanis, but he will probably go play in Europe to develop just like Tavares did.

This team is even better than last years.

Tavares > Hibbert

[Nelson14]

exposed in the Eastern finals as nothing more than pretenders

[kshutts1]

Who is even making rankings right now? FA is not even technically started.

Let's wait until the rosters are settled.

[Richesly]

exposed in the Eastern finals as nothing more than pretenders

You mean the worse officiated series in the playoffs? I'm pretty sure there was a consensus agreement on everyone that the refs were against the Hawks.

[uber]

who says they aren't? i can only see the bulls or wizards to put up a fight but the hawks are still favourites for the 2nd seed in my opinion ..

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Millsap at SF?? I was thinking Bazemore holds down SG til Thabo gets back, and Korver starts at SF. Splitter rotates off bench. Though I do like Horford going back to the 4F. I'd bring Millsap off the bench as a super-sub (a super expensive sub...). But I know that aint happening.

Anyway, I think ppl see the 2014-15 Hawks as a flash-in-the-pan. Plus they lost Carroll + Antic and got Splitter + Hardaway Jr, which I'd say is an overall downgrade.

Good team, I think still make the playoffs. But not winning 55+ games or being considered the hands-down #2 seed, imo.

[imnew09]

Slowly coming out of the closet. Won 60+games and Lost 4-0 against Lebeta lol... Where hawkfan at?

[keep-itreal]

they got emasculated in the ECF.

[uber]

Slowly coming out of the closet. Won 60+games and Lost 4-0 against Lebeta lol... Where hawkfan at?

so you create a thread and whine about how other posters make fun of the lakers and 5 minutes later you talk shit about the hawks?

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Kings >

[RidonKs]

the roster just isn't quite right

add a scoring wing and you have a deal. paul george or jimmy butler or kawhi leonard or gordon hayward and that team instantly contends. hell add joe johnson or gerald green or aaron afflalo and they can at least beat the bulls. somebody needs to be able to get kyle korver shots. the other three just aren't good enough in an ultra competitive league.

but not with what they have now unfortunately. the west and the cavs are way too good. really well built team though.

[Richesly]

the roster just isn't quite right

add a scoring wing and you have a deal. paul george or jimmy butler or kawhi leonard or gordon hayward and that team instantly contends. hell add joe johnson or gerald green or aaron afflalo and they can at least beat the bulls. somebody needs to be able to get kyle korver shots. the other three just aren't good enough in an ultra competitive league.

but not with what they have now unfortunately. the west and the cavs are way too good. really well built team though.

We did add a scoring wing, name is Tim Hardaway Jr.

[Genaro]

Millsap won't play the 3. Hawks can have a 3 men rotation in PF/C just like the Lakers had Bynum, Pau and Odom. Millsap off of the bench.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Dropped off hard in 2nd half of season and playoffs. Had problems with fcking rooklyn who shouldnt even be anywhere close to a playoff team Wiz wouldve beat them if Wall was healthy

lost their only good perimeter defender besides Thabo who could space the floor and make an impact without plays bein called for him, along with Millsap was their anchors on D. Hardaway is an awful defender\
Splitters nice but hes an offensive liability

[RidonKs]

We did add a scoring wing, name is Tim Hardaway Jr.

damn i did not hear about that. pretty good pick up. mid-late first rounder doesn't seem horribly steep like peeps might feel.

but you know as well as i do (having read your posts, you seem reasonable) that he is not going to be enough to put you over the top next season. which is what this thread was about.

i admittedly saw little of him the past two seasons. because besides new yorkers who didn't? how do you think he'll fit next to teague and shroeder?