So it's just like that? LeBron just loses and loses against the West?

[3ball]

The 2014 spurs

2011 mavs

The Heat had more talent than the Spurs or Mavericks - did the Spurs or Mavs have a 10-time all-star as their 3rd option?.. No way.

But obviously, the Heat didn't make the best use of their talent, which is not surprising since Lebron's teams are never considered "smart" teams like the Spurs or Mavs always are..

Unlike Lebron's teams, those teams play a smarter, superior brand of basketball, which offsets their talent deficit and allows them to beat Lebron's more talented rosters.

[nzahir]

The Heat had more talent than the Spurs or Mavericks - did the Spurs or Mavs have a 10-time all-star as their 3rd option?.. No way.

But obviously, the Heat didn't make the best use of their talent, which is not surprising since Lebron's teams are never considered "smart" teams like the Spurs or Mavs always are..

Unlike Lebron's teams, those teams play a smarter, superior brand of basketball, which offsets their talent deficit and allows them to beat Lebron's more talented rosters.

Who was the heats 4th and 5th best player again in 2011? Was it a young mario chalmers who came off the bench until bibby got benched for being god awful? And was it either a UD or Miller who both had injuries and missed most of the year or was it joel anthony who couldnt even finish a layup?
And stop saying 10 time all star b/c bosh wasnt even in the league for 10 years in 2011 dumbass. You always take things out of context, thats like saying jordan had an all star center in parish in 1997. You have one of the lowest iq's on this forum.
And i accepted that the heat, even though they had no depth, should have beat the mavs b/c their star power should have been enough.
Depth is a huge factor and it has shown greatly the last 5 years.
Spurs in 2014 were way more talented and played better that entire year. 62-20 and they rested players while the heat won 54 games....ETHER

[Megabox!]

2 for 6? and got beat by Finals virgins?
Mavs, Spurs, Warriors?. Kobe used to feast and beast on em.

Lol no he didn't, those past Mavs, Spurs and Warrior teams weren't nearly as good as the 2011 Mavs, 2014 Spurs and 2015 Warriors

[LikeABosh]

Wow 6 Finals trips at just the age of 30 ? 2 FMVPs, 4 MVPs, 2 gold medals, scoring champ, ROY, 11 ALL NBA teams, 6 all defensive teams, all time great stats, all time great on the eye test. All this at the age of 30? Lock for top 5 GOAT. Get over it

[nzahir]

Wow 6 Finals trips at just the age of 30 ? 2 FMVPs, 4 MVPs, 2 gold medals, scoring champ, ROY, 11 ALL NBA teams, 6 all defensive teams, all time great stats, all time great on the eye test. All this at the age of 30? Lock for top 5 GOAT. Get over it

Yup, its just that most people here are delusional. Hes easily top 10 all time and hes getting very close to top 5 lock.
I think another ring with a fmvp locks him in top 5. If he ever wins a 3rd fmvp hell only be under MJ in terms of fmvps but tied with shaq, magic, and duncan only...but he has more mvps than any of them, best stats of any of them, highest quantity of great playoff performances, most clutch in playoffs out of them(and one of the best all time).
It will be hard to have an argument over kareem but he can have more fmvps than him even though kareem will have a couple more mvps(doubt lebron wins another).
He will end up top 5, maybe top 3, slim, but possible, chance at #2.
Mj will stay #1 all time even though there are some arguments such as 1=9 and 55 wins after he left the first time, so he was not as impactful as lebron

[riseagainst]

Kareem, Russell, Lebron

[West-Side]

I always find it funny how much we bash LeBron & Kobe; yet as soon as either of them join our team, we become their biggest fans.

That's greatness my friends.

[gilalizard]

These past Finals actually boosted his legacy, believe it or not.

Single handedly winning 2 games against a historically great Warriors team? Nothing to be ashamed about, you ****ing moron.

Should've been the FMVP. And still the GOAT. Why are you so mad about this?

Sorry, nope.

Those two games were more losses by Golden State, than wins by the Cavs. It was more a measure of a young, Finals-green team getting s bit wobbly under the pressure. They lost their swag for a bit, and that was nothing to do with LeBron.

Notice as soon as they got their swag back they blew the Cavs away. Meanwhile, LeBrons chucked his way to some empty stats and his stans slobber all over them. Something like 28% from outside five feet? There's no way that helps a legacy.