any better leader of the modern era than scottie pippen?

[mehyaM24]

here are some absolute gems regarding pippen's GOAT intangibles:

"Tremendous teammate, that's what comes to mind when I think of Scottie Pippen. He was a very caring teammate who was always concerned about the team, always concerned about it. He just had a great understanding of the team concept. Everyone talks about a great teammate, but he really was a great guy to play with. He may have been having a 25 or 30-point game, but if he knew you were struggling, he'd find a way to get you going as well. He's that type of guy."

PIPPEN WAS VERY ENCOURAGING AS A TEAMMATE

"The subtle things that he did so well-defensively helping his teammates, recovering out to guys offensively, making plays, being unselfish-those are things that teammates always recognize and noticed," John Paxson said of Scottie Pippen. "You always felt like Scottie had your back."

Scottie was very encouraging as a teammate. He was the type of guy that if you weren't playing well, or you missed a few shots in a row or had your head hanging down, he was going to encourage you to look for your shot. That was really important for a lot of us because we respected him as a player, and as a person, for the way he approached the game and worked at his craft. The fact that he would encourage the majority of his time was a big thing for us."

When you talk about Scottie encouraging, is there a moment that comes to mind in the locker room or behind closed doors that the general public might not see or understand?

"I remember often in games, with me, if I was struggling with my shot, he would keep looking for me. He would keep saying, 'One's going to go down.' It's just how he was and that was pretty important for us. We all understood the pecking order, believe me. But to have one of your best players out there encouraging and wanting you to do well was always important.

In your final season, you have called it Scottie's defining year, which was also his favorite season. What did you see from him that maybe you hadn't before in the 1993-94 campaign?

He didn't look at it like he had to take on everything, and that's where teammates loved him. He had his best statistical year, but he found a way to make his teammates feel a part of it, reward them when they were open, and do all those things that he had done before, but not just in a little different role. So many people had written us off that year because we didn't have Michael. Everyone said that we were going to win 25-30 games. Scottie kind of said, 'Nope, it's not going to happen.' He led us to 55."

Just as so many of his other teammates have regularly done, Rodman was only following suit for the player who garnered so much respect throughout his 17 season career and will enter basketball’s Hall of Fame Friday in Springfield, Mass.

Scottie was right in the middle of that team and he supported us all.”

“Scottie would score four points and dominate the game,” said Steve Kerr, who always listed Pippen as his favorite teammate. “That’s what made him one of the best to ever play the game.”

Steve Kerr used to recount times on the floor he’d go several minutes and not get a shot and become a bit wary. He said Pippen would run by him and say, “I know you haven’t gotten a shot. Don’t worry. Next time, I’ll get you one.” Kerr said it was uncanny Pippen seemed to know what everyone on the court needed.

"He was the most popular teammate we had," says Grant. "You could laugh with him and joke and he wasn't the kind of guy who got mad. He was a fun teammate, fun to be around and always cared about everyone. If you had a problem, you could always talk it out with him. And he loved the game and the team. He was unselfish, but unselfish to a fault. We knew when he had the ball he was going to make a play and score or find the open guy. We had some great times."

“If your best players are taking a shortcut, they’re going to have problems holding everyone else accountable and responsible. Scottie were very accountable and a responsible man to the team, the franchise and themselves. He took his job seriously and that made everyone else hold themselves accountable."

“Everyone talks about a great teammate, but he really was a great guy to play with. He may have been having a 25 or 30-point game, but if he knew you were struggling, he’d find a way to get you going as well.”

"He was accountable for his actions on the floor," Wennington said. "Usually, other players get blamed for stars' mistakes. Scottie wasn't like that. He worked hard at practice every day, even if he was banged up."

why is his leadership so underrated? in that aspect, he should be in the SAME tier with russell, lebron, magic & larry imo

[Marchesk]

why is his leadership so underrated? in that aspect, he should be in the SAME tier with russell, lebron, magic & larry imo

How many FMVPs does he have?

[mehyaM24]

How many FMVPs does he have?

the same as george mikan, historically one of the greatest players ever.

[DonDadda59]

Pippen was the good cop to Jordan's bad cop. The shoulder that teammates used to cry on when the big bad Wolf would yell at them and hurt their feelings.

But what happened to that legendary leadership when Jordan wasn't around?

Dat leadership

Worst meltdown in NBA History. Hell of an underboss though, just not top dog material (Also see: migraines in the 80s).

[mehyaM24]

Pippen was the good cop to Jordan's bad cop. The shoulder that teammates used to cry on when the big bad Wolf would yell at them and hurt their feelings.

But what happened to that legendary leadership when Jordan wasn't around?

Dat leadership

Worst meltdown in NBA History. Hell of an underboss though, just not top dog material (Also see: migraines in the 80s).

you sure you're not referencing jordan, the guy who was 1-9 in the playoffs without pippen? because WITH pippen, and a mediocre sg in place of jordan, the bulls still managed to win multiple games in the playoffs, and were ONE bad call away from making the conference finals.

fact of the matter is, everywhere pippen went his teams were successful. jordan and the wizards? the 80s bulls without pippen? yea, lets not go down that road.

[Smoke117]

His leadership was actually felt most keenly on the Blazers...you thought the "jail blazers" were combustible before? If not for him we would still be talking about their antics. He had a calming effect on those knuckleheads every time he walked onto the court. If not for his work at running the point in 2002 and 2003 those teams wouldn't have even made the playoffs.

[riseagainst]

the same as george mikan, historically one of the greatest players ever.

George Mikan would have 5 FMVP if the award existed. Just like Russell would have like 7+ if it existed.

[mehyaM24]

George Mikan would have 5 FMVP if the award existed. Just like Russell would have like 7+ if it existed.

how many does he ACTUALLY have though?

[DonDadda59]

you sure you're not referencing jordan, the guy who was 1-9 in the playoffs without pippen? because WITH pippen, and a mediocre sg in place of jordan, the bulls still managed to win multiple games in the playoffs, and were ONE bad call away from making the conference finals.

Wade won a championship and finals MVP for the Heat without Bron.

Pippen won a first round series without Jordan... then when Jordan comes back they win 72 games and go on another 3-peat.

These are facts.

fact of the matter is, everywhere pippen went his teams were successful.

A year after Jordan at 35 carried brokeback Pippen to another ring, Scottie teamed up with Hakeem and Barkley in Houston. How'd that go?

More of that legendary leadership

[TheMan]

you sure you're not referencing jordan, the guy who was 1-9 in the playoffs without pippen? because WITH pippen, and a mediocre sg in place of jordan, the bulls still managed to win multiple games in the playoffs, and were ONE bad call away from making the conference finals.

fact of the matter is, everywhere pippen went his teams were successful. jordan and the wizards? the 80s bulls without pippen? yea, lets not go down that road.

The Bulls started winning when Pip and Grant became good players. Before that, they were a one man team losing to GOAT teams like the 80s Celtics. Jordan scored 63 pts in a playoff game AND STILL LOST. That shows you the crap he had around him. If LBJ scored 63 pts in a playoffs game and still lost, you'd be here whining about how he had no help (just like in these last Finals, you and you're ilk were crying about LeBron having no support ). Dat double standard.

Get it through your moronic troll skull, Pippen and Grant, then later on Rodman and Kukoc were important pieces in the Bulls dynasty but they don't go 6/6 without the GOAT leading the way.

Nice troll attempt though but anyone with a brain can see through your agenda.

[Smoke117]

Pippen won a first round series without Jordan... then when Jordan comes back they win 72 games and go on another 3-peat.

These are facts.

Because acquiring Rodman had nothing to do with that...gotcha. Idiot.

[DonDadda59]

Because acquiring Rodman had nothing to do with that...gotcha. Idiot.

They went on a 3-peat without Rodman

[riseagainst]

how many does he ACTUALLY have though?

that's like saying Ryan Leaf would have been the greatest NFL player ever ........... in 1778. Nice logic.

[mehyaM24]

that's like saying Ryan Leaf would have been the greatest NFL player ever ........... in 1778. Nice logic.

i'm not seeing the parallels here. but alright?

The Bulls started winning when Pip and Grant became good players. Before that, they were a one man team losing to GOAT teams like the 80s Celtics. Jordan scored 63 pts in a playoff game AND STILL LOST. That shows you the crap he had around him. If LBJ scored 63 pts in a playoffs game and still lost, you'd be here whining about how he had no help (just like in these last Finals, you and you're ilk were crying about LeBron having no support ). Dat double standard.

Get it through your moronic troll skull, Pippen and Grant, then later on Rodman and Kukoc were important pieces in the Bulls dynasty but they don't go 6/6 without the GOAT leading the way.

Nice troll attempt though but anyone with a brain can see through your agenda.

and yet, only a 1-9 record to show for it? i said it another thread, and i'll say it again here: nobody in the top 10 has had a worse beginning to their career, in the playoffs, than jordan. without another superstar? nope - you cannot name one.

lebron at 21, younger than jordan who was swept in 86 & 87, took his team to the finals while beating the pistons - a team that was heavily favored against him.

you jordan fans don't want to talk about facts though. just selective factoids that allows you to sweep a sack of jordan's shit under the rug.

[GimmeThat]

yea, he was good in playing for keeps.

he's certainly earned that.