any better leader of the modern era than scottie pippen?

[Wade's Rings]

Yea, that's why LeBrony stans love Wilt, while MJ fans love alphas like Wade who lead his team to a title while winning FMVP...alpha af

[jayfan]

This crap again?



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[Yoda]

here are some absolute gems regarding pippen's GOAT intangibles:





why is his leadership so underrated? in that aspect, he should be in the SAME tier with russell, lebron, magic & larry imo

[jayfan]

Dat leadership

Worst meltdown in NBA History.

Easily.





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[Jailblazers7]

Everything in the OP makes Scottie sound like more of a glue guy than a leader. Basically he was the yang to Jordan's yin. Kept the peace while Jordan was the general who pushed everyone insanely hard.

[3ball]

Pip on the other hand left the Bulls following a 6th coattail ring to join up with Hakeem and Barkley (2 seasons removed from a WCF berth with Clyde in his place) and then promptly bailed on them while throwing his teammate under the bus in public (leadership ). He then became a 4th, sometimes 5th option on a Blazers team that was in the WCF the season before he got there.

Yet no one ever brings up the fact that at 38-40 Jordan was still an all star 20/5/5 caliber player while Pip actually went back to Chicago as a 6 PPG scrub at the same age. Chicago went 23-59 that season.

I miss anything there?

Nope.

I'll just add that Pippen has only 2 game-winners in his entire career, one of which was assisted by MJ when he was triple-teamed.. Otherwise, Pippen let MJ take every game-deciding shot.

His list of chokes (epic chokes) far exceeds his 2 game-winners:

1) 1990 ECF "migraines"
2) sitting out in Game 3 of 1994 ECSF
3) the entire 1996 Finals
4) Game 5 and 6 of 1998 Finals


Four epic chokes, which is twice as much as his GW's...

[DonDadda59]

Everything in the OP makes Scottie sound like more of a glue guy than a leader. Basically he was the yang to Jordan's yin. Kept the peace while Jordan was the general who pushed everyone insanely hard.

EXACTLY what he was. Perfect description. He was the mother hen who coddled hurt egos and soothed things over when Jordan pushed everyone to their limits physically and mentally.

It was the standard good cop/bad cop paradigm. Yet as soon as Jordan left, we got a glimpse into Pippen's less ideal personality traits- the pouting, the passive aggression, etc.

[Smoke117]

Nope.

I'll just add that Pippen has only 2 game-winners in his entire career, one of which was assisted by MJ when he was triple-teamed.. Otherwise, Pippen let MJ take every game-deciding shot.

His list of chokes (epic chokes) far exceeds his 2 game-winners:

1) 1990 ECF "migraines"
2) sitting out in Game 3 of 1994 ECSF
3) the entire 1996 Finals
4) Game 5 and 6 of 1998 Finals


Four epic chokes, which is twice as much as his GW's...

You are so mad that Scottie had to carry Jordan on his back to get through the knicks in 93.

[mehyaM24]

Pippen wasn't even an all star caliber player til year 3, and not an all star until year 4.

In that time the Bulls had multiple 50+ win years. In Pippens rookie year, where he didn't start a single game and average 19 MPG, the Bulls won 47 and a playoff series.

I used to think that you were a quality poster but its clear now that you're the same dime-a-dozen DB troll found so often on this forum.

lebron had ZERO allstars when he went to the finals in 2007. how about in 2006 when he won his first playoff series against a team he was expected to lose vs?

like i've stated countless times - jordan played a hobbled celtics team in 87 who the bucks took to 7 games. the SAME bucks that jordan absolutely crushed in the regular season.

instead? jordan was swept, and finished 1-9 during his tenure without pippen as a bull.

if it makes you feel better labeling me a "troll", that's fine - but those are facts.

[LoneyROY7]

Big c*ck and an even bigger heart.

[knicksman]

OP on a meltdown now that his boy is 2/6.

[TheMan]

lebron had ZERO allstars when he went to the finals in 2007. how about in 2006 when he won his first playoff series against a team he was expected to lose vs?

like i've stated countless times - jordan played a hobbled celtics team in 87 who the bucks took to 7 games. the SAME bucks that jordan absolutely crushed in the regular season.

instead? jordan was swept, and finished 1-9 during his tenure without pippen as a bull.

if it makes you feel better labeling me a "troll", that's fine - but those are facts.

Neither did MJ in 91, 'cept the difference being he actually led his team to a title...

[mehyaM24]

Big c*ck and an even bigger heart.

that's hilarious, but i'm not trying to take personal shots here.

[mehyaM24]

Neither did MJ in 91, 'cept the difference being he actually led his team to a title...

pippen was an all-star the year before and years following post 91. not only that, but he was a top 10 player in 91. at the VERY least.

lebron didn't have that. not even close.