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3/8 is real
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
WTF does LBJ have to do with this?
I'm agreeing. Even if there is a player every bit as good as MJ, the rules won't be in his favor the way they were for MJ and he won't have the marketing might of the world behind him.
LBJ represents perceived greatness in current era. Instead of just accepting the fact that MJ is GOAT and LBJ failed at his opportunity to become the GOAT, these kids just post negativity about Jordan to give their pathetic, sad, miserable lives meaning knowing that the best player of their current era came up short. Sorry kids but 2/6 isn't getting it done, and now Bron is just fading away while players like KD and AD start to emerge.
kid in 80's -----> watches Jordan, wants to be better so he picks up a basketball and goes outside everyday and actually plays basketball
kid in current era -----> watches Lebron and then comes on a message board to post about it 70,000+ times a year on 5+ different accounts.
Jordan actually made you want to play basketball.
Lebron doesn't make any kid want to go out and play because the kid's father informs them of what a beta mindset player Lebron is.
Do you really think that if a kid is being raised properly and being properly educated and their father is around to actually play ball with them that they are going to post 70,000+ times a year on a message board?
Last edited by Straight_Ballin; 10-15-2015 at 06:46 PM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
One more ring for LeBron and he surpasses Jordan, idiots.
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Seething...
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by NuggetsFan
I think MJ is the GOAT but he's also had arguably the biggest media push of All-Time for an athlete. It's like a blockbuster movie vs a independent movie, somebody like Taylor Swift or Beiber vs some indie musician when you look at M.J vs guys like Kareem, Wilt, Russell.
Dude's who idolize Jordan are for some serious shock eventually. Just like guys who were obsessed with Wilt and Kareem. Eventually somebody else is going to come along and steal the spotlight. They tried to give it to LeBron and he could have had it if he didn't fck up in the finals.
LeBron, Kobe, Duncan. KG, Wade, Durant. League has been producing some serious talent post Jordan. Right now things look a little shaky. You have Anthony Davis. Maybe Wiggins. Westbrook is an All-Time freak at the PG position.
MJ gets passed within the next 10-20 years. He's not Gretzky. There will another GOAT. Look at how close LeBron came as a mental midget. If he doesn't collapse vs Dallas, if he pulls an upset against the Spurs/Warriors? Totally different conversation right now. MJ would still be better but LeBron would be closing in.
Bullsh*t.
The media didn't create the MJ hype, MJ did. He was that good and that exciting that all the hype was warranted. Real recognize real. The world recognized MJ was the real deal. And he is still remembered accordingly. The medai can try to hype a lesser player and it wouldn't stick because people know what's up.
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3/8 is real
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by ClipperRevival
Bullsh*t.
The media didn't create the MJ hype, MJ did. He was that good and that exciting that all the hype was warranted. Real recognize real. The world recognized MJ was the real deal. And he is still remembered accordingly. The medai can try to hype a lesser player and it wouldn't stick because people know what's up.
What else do they have to reach for? Now it's the media's fault that MJ was as good as he is.
A precedent was set, and Lebron and no one else hasn't met that precedent.
It's that simple. If a guy was as good as Jordan was today, the impact from the media and the marketing that follows it would be no different.
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big time kobe stan
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
LBJ represents perceived greatness in current era. Instead of just accepting the fact that MJ is GOAT and LBJ failed at his opportunity to become the GOAT, these kids just post negativity about Jordan to give their pathetic, sad, miserable lives meaning knowing that the best player of their current era came up short. Sorry kids but 2/6 isn't getting it done, and now Bron is just fading away while players like KD and AD start to emerge.
kid in 80's -----> watches Jordan, want's to be better so he picks up a basketball and goes outside everyday and actually plays basketball
kid in current era -----> watches Lebron and then comes on a message board to post about it 70,000+ times a year on 5+ different accounts.
Jordan actually made you want to play basketball.
Lebron doesn't make any kid want to go out and play because the kid's father informs them of what a beta mindset player Lebron is.
Do you really think that if a kid is being raised properly and being properly educated and their father is around to actually play ball with them that they are going to post 70,000+ times a year on a message board?
meltdown
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big time kobe stan
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by ClipperRevival
Bullsh*t.
The media didn't create the MJ hype, MJ did. He was that good and that exciting that all the hype was warranted. Real recognize real. The world recognized MJ was the real deal. And he is still remembered accordingly. The medai can try to hype a lesser player and it wouldn't stick because people know what's up.
Based on your avatar I'd say your opinion has no bias whatsoever
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3/8 is real
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by JT123
meltdown
Why are you so insecure?
You do realize that it's not your fault that you weren't blessed to watch the GOAT.
You didn't have a choice in the matter.
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Nuggets/Avs/Broncos.
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by ClipperRevival
Bullsh*t.
The media didn't create the MJ hype, MJ did. He was that good and that exciting that all the hype was warranted. Real recognize real. The world recognized MJ was the real deal. And he is still remembered accordingly. The medai can try to hype a lesser player and it wouldn't stick because people know what's up.
I have MJ as the GOAT. I realize the reason the media push was because of his talent and how exciting he was. Still doesn't mean the media push didn't take place. His Jordan's shoes, Space Jam, cereal boxes, commercials. Dude's been retired how long and he's still appearing on video game covers.
Kareem, Wilt, Russell never got that. Jordan came in at the right time and benefited from it. You can watch a large chunk of his career on DVD where as somebody like Wilt you can't find shit.
Jordan has a MASSIVE media push. You were told to think he was the GOAT regardless of how big a basketball fan you were. It's ok. He deserved it because of his talent, but don't deny it
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Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by NuggetsFan
I have MJ as the GOAT. I realize the reason the media push was because of his talent and how exciting he was. Still doesn't mean the media push didn't take place. His Jordan's shoes, Space Jam, cereal boxes, commercials. Dude's been retired how long and he's still appearing on video game covers.
Kareem, Wilt, Russell never got that. Jordan came in at the right time and benefited from it. You can watch a large chunk of his career on DVD where as somebody like Wilt you can't find shit.
Jordan has a MASSIVE media push. You were told to think he was the GOAT regardless of how big a basketball fan you were. It's ok. He deserved it because of his talent, but don't deny it
And that's mainly due to his style of play.
Let's face it, big men aren't nearly as marketable or exciting to the masses as perimeter players. What kid wants to do a sky hook or score 12 points on 40%(Russell)?
People confuse his exciting style for being the GOAT. LeBron has more impact than Jordan, but Jordan was skinnier and could relate to the common man a little more. That story about Jordan not making his high school basketball team really took off and inspired people. It added to the Jordan mythology.
With LeBron he's always been the best, and with that comes different expectations and perceptions.
Jordan wasn't even the number 1 pick after spending 3 years in High School under the greatest college coach ever... LeBron was astronomically ahead of every other prospect in the world as a 16 year old.
For whatever reason we like it when people come out of nowhere. What a story!
LeBron by being the most psychically adept specimen man has ever produced gets treated like a zoo animal instead of a human. Everybody wants him to do impossible stuff like lead Matthew Dellavadova and JR Smith to a championship against the best, and most healthy team in the league. Que? Meanwhile Jordan's Bulls were winning 60 games while he was embarrassing himself on a minor league baseball field. . . aha.
Jordan is a man. LeBron is a GOD.
That's the way we should perceive them. Because LeBron would beat Jordan in a fight to death, beat him in a marathon race, and be more skilled behind a weapon. (LeBrons dexterity is better than Jordans too, he'd be a better bow shooter, knife thrower, and a more reliable gunmen)
Everything about LeBron is better than Jordan. He's bigger, moves more efficiently, stronger, more hung, and is a way better team player with much more natural passing ability. Not only is he up there with Jordan in scoring, but he's up there with Magic in passing. While being the best and most versatile defender at his position.
LeBron's approach to the game, again, has Jordan beat. He approaches it the same way every single day. Eats a balanced diet, consumes little to no alcohol, no drugs, and does yoga, meditates, and treats his teammates with a fair and uplifting attitude and leads by example by showing up to practice every single day ready to work. Jordan was inconsistent, didn't eat the greatest diet, and wasn't as emotionally consistent as LeBron. Therefore leadership goes to LeBron.
Everything but team accomplishments are in LeBron's favor. Therefore, LeBron is GOAT.
Last edited by Vaniiiia; 10-15-2015 at 07:51 PM.
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big time kobe stan
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by Vaniiiia
And that's mainly due to his style of play.
Let's face it, big men aren't nearly as marketable or exciting to the masses as perimeter players. What kid wants to do a sky hook or score 12 points on 40%(Russell)?
People confuse his exciting style for being the GOAT. LeBron has more impact than Jordan, but Jordan was skinnier and could relate to the common man a little more. That story about Jordan not making his high school basketball team really took off and inspired people. It added to the Jordan mythology.
With LeBron he's always been the best, and with that comes different expectations and perceptions.
Jordan wasn't even the number 1 pick after spending 3 years in High School under the greatest college coach ever... LeBron was astronomically ahead of every other prospect in the world as a 16 year old.
For whatever reason we like it when people come out of nowhere. What a story!
LeBron by being the most psychically adept specimen man has ever produced gets treated like a zoo animal instead of a human. Everybody wants him to do impossible stuff like lead Matthew Dellavadova and JR Smith to a championship against the best, and most healthy team in the league. Que? Meanwhile Jordan's Bulls were winning 60 games while he was embarrassing himself on a minor league baseball field. . . aha.
Jordan is a man. LeBron is a GOD.
That's the way we should perceive them. Because LeBron would beat Jordan in a fight to death, beat him in a marathon race, and be more skilled behind a weapon. (LeBrons dexterity is better than Jordans too, he'd be a better bow shooter, knife thrower, and a more reliable gunmen)
Everything about LeBron is better than Jordan. He's bigger, moves more efficiently, stronger, more hung, and is a way better team player with much more natural passing ability. Not only is he up there with Jordan in scoring, but he's up there with Magic in passing. While being the best and most versatile defender at his position.
LeBron's approach to the game, again, has Jordan beat. He approaches it the same way every single day. Eats a balanced diet, consumes little to no alcohol, no drugs, and does yoga, meditates, and treats his teammates with a fair and uplifting attitude and leads by example by showing up to practice every single day ready to work. Jordan was inconsistent, didn't eat the greatest diet, and wasn't as emotionally consistent as LeBron. Therefore leadership goes to LeBron.
Everything but team accomplishments are in LeBron's favor. Therefore, LeBron is GOAT.
Greatest post in ISH history
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3/8 is real
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by JT123
Greatest post in ISH history
Talking to yourself again?
Lebron is a beta who tried to chase rings and could only muster up 2/6 despite all the collusion.
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The Future Goat
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
If you really think Jordan will be the goat forever you got another thing coming.
Seeing that the goat shooter got drafted 6 years ago. Some freak of nature will show up in the next 10 years.
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3/8 is real
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by TripleA
If you really think Jordan will be the goat forever you got another thing coming.
Seeing that the goat shooter got drafted 6 years ago. Some freak of nature will show up in the next 10 years.
I hope so. It's not fun watching sub par players the last 17 years struggle to be GOAT and come up short.
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NBA Legend
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
What else do they have to reach for? Now it's the media's fault that MJ was as good as he is.
A precedent was set, and Lebron and no one else hasn't met that precedent.
It's that simple. If a guy was as good as Jordan was today, the impact from the media and the marketing that follows it would be no different.
Correct.....LeBron, or no other greatest player in the league at the time, quit the league (in their prime while under contract) after winning a championship.........twice
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5-time NBA All-Star
Re: There will NEVER be another Michael Jordan
I can't think of any player in history there is an exact replica of.
Pretty sure there will be someone very similar but better than Jordan in the future, Kobe basically is the same player and they played against each other, let alone in another 10-20 years.
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