Predict 2013 Lebron stats in 1993 NBA

[Rocketswin2013]

GOAT perimeter defender.

[3ball]

He'll get a lot more assists and... Rebounds will pretty much be the same more or less...

Lebron's poor 1-on-1 and midrange efficiency prevents him from being as good in the 80's or 90's, when these were the primary options remaining without the 3-point shooting needed to make screen-roll/drive-and-kick mathematically worthwhile (driving and kicking for 2-pointers isn't worthwhile or preferable over other options).

Without teammates spreading the floor with threes to make drive-and-kick preferable and the force it is today, Lebron would have to score via 1-on-1 and mid-range like everyone else in the 80's - since his efficiency in very poor in these areas, we know for a fact he would be a lesser player back then.

23/7/5 on 55%

Fixed.. His rebounding would be down because the league was taller back then and far more physical.. And since he wouldn't be running screen-roll/drive-and-kick, he'd be less ball-dominant with less opportunities for assists... He's not used to passing without being ball-dominant like Bird and MJ were.
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[Rocketswin2013]

The 90's never had clear-outs....

[Dragonyeuw]

Oh yes, this thread was just begging for 3ball. I'll spare my bandwidth from further suffering.

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Holy shit imagine Lebron backing down the small ass wing defenders of the 90's

The doubles would be so predictable Lebron would get 10 assists easy

[3ball]

Look at Ewing out of "armslength" but still in the paint!!!!!!.... In today's game, Ewing would have to vacate the paint and go stand above the foul line next to Rik Smits, which would make Ewing FURTHER away to help than he was back then, when he was legally paint-camping..

Also, in your gif - at least there was 1 defender with his feet in the paint and therefore within helping distance... Otoh, there are no help defenders in the paint against Lebron below - they're all on the far weakside, and therefore furthest away to help.

[Lebron23]

40/10/10

[3ball]

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In the picture below, weakside floor-spreaders have drawn defenders away from the strongside.. If Noah doesn't leave #20 Mosgov and flood to the strongside, the strongside will only have 2 defenders on it.. This demonstrates how spacing necessitates flooding - defenders must flood BACK to the strongside (Noah), only because they were originally drawn away by floor-spreaders on the weakside (Mosgov)






[COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR][color="green"]Now which strongside scenario is harder to score on: [/color]


[color=red]WITH weakside spacing[/color] - Being against Iggy with all 4 help defenders on weakside and [color=red]furthest[/color] to help on strongside action:






[COLOR=blue]WITHOUT weakside spacing[/COLOR] - Being against Rodman with all 4 help defenders on strongside and [color=blue]closest[/color] to help on strongside action:





Weakside spacing leaves the strongside with fewer defenders (1st GIF), which necessitates the flooding of defenders BACK TO the strongside - this is how strongside floods originated.

Otoh, without weakside spacing (seen in 2nd GIF), defenders just remained on the strongside and closest to help on strongside action.. With defenders staying on strongside, the strongside was [color="red"]already flooded[/color] with all 5 defenders (5-defender strongsides, which is stark contrast from today's weakside spacing and resulting 1-defender strongsides).

[aj1987]

He doesnt have the isolation game to consistently break free from handchecking. Even today, he needs alot of picks to beat his man off the dribble at times, thats gonna be exasperated if his defender can put his hands on his hip or forearm in his back. He's also not going to be a great post presence, not moreso than today. There were way more legit bigs roaming the paint, and he doesnt have the consistent turnaround/fadeaway game with the footwork that MJ had down there. So major production from the post is unlikely, and paths to the basket wont be unobstructed like today with the no hand rules.

He'd probably average the same as he did in 2013, albeit on a a way lower percentage. Im thinking 27 on 48-49% to go with 7 rebounds/assists. His field goal % spiked from all the transition opportunities generated by the Heat, but outside those Heat years he's pretty much a 48-50% scorer.The 80s would have benefitted Lebron moreseo, the pace and run/gun style would benefit his athleticism and skillset to get out in transition. Alot of perimeter players shot 50% in that period, so he likely would be closer to the 53-55% mark in that era.

I say his FG% would drop by like ~5%. 26/9/8 on 50%-52%. More rebounds and assists due to the higher pace (96.8 in '93 and 92 in '13).

His defense would improve MASSIVELY though. I'd say he'll be a DPOY level defender due to his strength, athleticism, and IQ. The rules allowing physicality would help him immensely.

Also, he'd probably be able to adjust after a season of playing under the new rules.

[scandisk_]

25/6/6 on 49%

Those number of rebounds are way too low, A man of Brans size would get 7 rebounds minimum.

I say 26/8/8 on 50%

[riseagainst]

realistically and objectively probably something like 29-9-6, 55%.

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realistically and objectively probably something like 29-9-6, 55%.

Only 6 assists?

He'd be getting easily 10 a game

[riseagainst]

Only 6 assists?

He'd be getting easily 10 a game

I was assuming he'd be playing in the triangle. He may get 7 a game, I can't see double digit assists.

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it'd be almost guaranteed with how distinct and obvious defense was played then