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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by juju151111
    Is that the reason miller clearly pushed off mj in the ECF
    I don't think Jordan stans wanna bring up push offs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    the 1988-89 season MJ went to the line an avg. of 9.8x per game.

    His next highest FTA per game was........the 1997-98 season when he avg. 8.8 per game. How could someone (out of his prime) who drives less to the basket due to lost athleticism and now settling for more jumpers/set shots be getting to line almost as much as he did ( in his prime) 9yrs prior?

    Wat the **** 8 fta isn't alot and Mj still drives to the hoop numnuts. Mj was barely averging 7 fta during his chip runs. He averged 7 in 92 and 93.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by JT123
    I don't think Jordan stans wanna bring up push offs


    Bryon slipped and fell. Wanna argue against that?
    Last edited by DonDadda59; 10-23-2015 at 08:32 PM.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by JT123
    I don't think Jordan stans wanna bring up push offs
    Why not?

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    Glad you used this ,buckwheat...... because your "in depth analysis" clearly shows you're confused.
    You are too dumb to even realize this thread exists because someone was too stupid to understand an youtube video, and you went on with your stupid propaganda.

    You couldn't make yourself look more of an idiot even if you tried.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by juju151111
    Wat the **** 8 fta isn't alot and Mj still drives to the hoop numnuts. Mj was barely averging 7 fta during his chip runs. He averged 7 in 92 and 93.
    Yes, in a far more physical era a prime Jordan was getting FAR less FTs per FG attempts than star wings get today. Not even close.

    Career FTr
    MJ - .348
    Kobe - .388
    Lebron - .428
    Durant - .435
    Wade - .459
    Harden - .548

    Captain Marvel with James Harden FTr averages 40 PPG.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    All 34yr old wings (out of their prime) who doesn't drive to the basket nearly as much as they did 9yrs prior and was still being pushed as the face of the league?

    What other wings were there that year who fit the above category?
    Mj drived or wrked in the post at 33-35. He was averging 8 fts in 96. He also had a broken knuckle in 98 which is why he had to adjust his shot. He shot horrible from midrange at the start of 98. He was driving more because of that.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by DonDadda59
    Yes, in a far more physical era a prime Jordan was getting FAR less FTs per FG attempts than star wings get today. Not even close.

    Career FTr
    MJ - .348
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    Durant - .435
    Wade - .459
    Harden - .548

    Captain Marvel with James Harden FTr averages 40 PPG.
    The ownage never stop for these Kobe/LJ/Harden numnuts hu.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by juju151111
    Wat the **** 8 fta isn't alot and Mj still drives to the hoop numnuts. Mj was barely averging 7 fta during his chip runs. He averged 7 in 92 and 93.
    I never said it was a lot.

    Just the very minor difference of FTA per game when playing at age 25 and at age 34....when he clearly lost some athleticism/speed while settling for more jumpers/set shots.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue&Orange
    You are too dumb to even realize this thread exists because someone was too stupid to understand an youtube video, and you went on with your stupid propaganda.

    You couldn't make yourself look more of an idiot even if you tried.
    So facts in my posts = idiot but stupidfucs like yourself that brings no facts = genius?

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    I never said it was a lot.

    Just the very minor difference of FTA per game when playing at age 25 and at age 34....when he clearly lost some athleticism/speed while settling for more jumpers/set shots.
    Because he played in the post.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by juju151111
    Mj drived or wrked in the post at 33-35. He was averging 8 fts in 96. He also had a broken knuckle in 98 which is why he had to adjust his shot. He shot horrible from midrange at the start of 98. He was driving more because of that.
    Link to broken knuckle?

    Beginning of the season doesn't = avg. for the whole reg. season.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by juju151111
    Because he played in the post.
    which meant more jumpers, less driving to the basket all while trying to stay away from contact at an older age.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by catch24
    MJ was asking for a double-dribble before the foul call, so he pleaded with the ref and I guess convinced him?

    I took the video out of context, but the few posts in here have helped back my point.

    And yeah, Harden = the GOAT beneficiary of bullshit calls. Him and Maggette were/are the absolute worst.
    Oh ok thanks for the clarification

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke117
    Jordan definitely got more calls than anyone else. All you have to do is look to his 98 "farewell" season where he took 8.8fta's. Whats the problem? The problem is that, that is the most ft's he took per game since 1989. So a guy who has been moving away from the basket and driving less and less takes the most ft's since he was 25? Yeah that's not fishy...a Jordan who was primarily getting his points in the mid post averages 8.8fta's...something he didn't even do in the early 90s?...right. They gave him a farewell tour, alright.
    He had an injured hand in the '98 season that affected his shooting, and adjusted by driving to the hoop way more than he had in his previous 2 seasons. Also the handchecking rules were softer after 94

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