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NBA Legend
Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
Originally Posted by 3ball
Well, wait a minute - let's see - you had Hakeem/Drexler's Rockets, Robinson/Duncan/Popovich Spurs, Shaq's 90's Lakers were his most talented teams ever, Gary Payton/Kemp/Schrempf big 3 in Seattle, among other teams.. And the Utah Jazz were the best of the bunch - actually, the Jazz and the Sonics destroyed all these teams - they were the best of this powerful lot.
And I guess that's the value of WINNING the championship, and beating these teams despite coming from a weaker conference, like you claim MJ did in the 90's East - by still winning the ring and beating the best of the West, it proves his Bulls would've still made the Finals if they had been in the stronger conference instead..
It's amazing how MJ's career contrasts so sharply with Lebron's in every way, since Lebron ISN'T able to beat the stronger conference, barring miracle - look at Lebron's 2014 Heat - their Finals performance proved what their regular season record proved - they would've barely even MADE the playoffs in the West.. They were a 1st or 2nd Round playoff team at best in the West, so when they fell to lottery in 2015, it was barely any drop-off at all, especially considering Wade/Bosh were out much of the year.. Contrast this minimal impact by Lebron, to MJ's enormous impact in 1994, when the Bulls fell from 3-peat dynasty to ordinary 2nd Round exit team.
I wouldn't call it a miracle but OKC was heavily favored after just steamrolling through the West in route to their Finals appearance.
Then LeBron and the Heat got that backdoor sweep for LeBron's first of B2B Finals MVP's.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
Originally Posted by 3ball
[COLOR="Red"]Compare the competition Bulls faced in 1996 Playoffs to the Heat's comp in 2013:[/COLOR]
1st Round
Miami Heat: Alonzo, Tim Hardaway, Pat Riley.. 41-41
Milwaukee: Monta Ellis, Brandon Jennings....... 38-44
2nd Round
New York: Ewing, Mason, Starks, Oakley.. 47-35
Chicago[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]: Deng, Noah, Boozer, Nate Rob.. 45-37
Eastern Finals
Orlando: Penny Hardaway, Shaquille.. 60-22
Indiana: Paul George, Roy Hibbert..... 49-32
Finals
Sonics: Kemp, Payton, Schrempf.. 64-18
Spurs[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]: Duncan, Parker, Kawhi..... 58-24
Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
Then compare their records and see the correlation. The heat weren't that much better than their relative competition like the Bulls were.
The point was that the Bulls faced better competition...
i.e.. Shaq/Penny > Hibbert/George... Payton/Kemp/Schrempf > Parker/Duncan/Kawhi
plus their 1st and 2nd Round opponents, all shown above
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
I wouldn't call it a miracle but OKC was heavily favored after just steamrolling through the West in route to their Finals appearance.
So you're saying 1/6..
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NBA Legend
Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
Originally Posted by 3ball
So you're saying 1/6..
No....your ruined ass did.
2012 and 2013 LeBron >>>>> MJ.
2014 and 2015 LeBron >>>>> MJ
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Great college starter
Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
Originally Posted by DavisIsMyUniBro
At least they aren't drawing like ur profile pic.
Anime sucks
Anime is great , if you're watch slam dunk ; but Kuroko sucks .
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Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
Originally Posted by 3ball
[COLOR="Red"]Compare the competition Bulls faced in 1996 Playoffs to the Heat's comp in 2013:[/COLOR]
1st Round
Miami Heat: Alonzo, Tim Hardaway, Pat Riley.. 41-41
Milwaukee: Monta Ellis, Brandon Jennings....... 38-44
2nd Round
New York: Ewing, Mason, Starks, Oakley.. 47-35
Chicago[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]: Deng, Noah, Boozer, Nate Rob.. 45-37
Eastern Finals
Orlando: Penny Hardaway, Shaquille.. 60-22
Indiana: Paul George, Roy Hibbert..... 49-32
Finals
Sonics: Kemp, Payton, Schrempf.. 64-18
Spurs[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]: Duncan, Parker, Kawhi..... 58-24
This is no way shape or form an argument against the league being weak and inflating regular reason wins. It's actually about as dumb a post as you've ever made.
Do you read, think, and then post or do you just copy and paste as fast as you can and avoid even reading? Seriously....what is wrong with you?
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Form is temporary
Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
So they played all their 82 games in the East?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
They had the second best SRS of all time, which adjusts for opponent winning percentage. There should be no diminishing of their accomplishments due to some misguided thought that they played in a weak conference.
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Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
They had the second best SRS of all time, which adjusts for opponent winning percentage. There should be no diminishing of their accomplishments due to some misguided thought that they played in a weak conference.
League not conference.
Oh god...you guys are going to make me work now.
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Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
Originally Posted by 3ball
The point was that the Bulls faced better competition...
i.e.. Shaq/Penny > Hibbert/George... Payton/Kemp/Schrempf > Parker/Duncan/Kawhi
plus their 1st and 2nd Round opponents, all shown above
Ill agree Shaq/Penny>
But Payton and crew? I don't see how they're clearly better, let alone better at all. The Spurs have a proven championship pedigree, where the Sonics more or less had a track record of underachieving, and could barely beat a Jazz team that had a huge deficit at the center spot that they tried to fill by playing by playing 6-8 Antoine Carr and Malone at the center spot for the majority of the game.
Overall Chicago's competition was more impressive (though honestly not as tough as the next two years)
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Caped Baldy
Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
GOAT team and East back then was a bloodbath compared to what it is now.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
boy, threads like these really seperate the men from the boys, don't they.
speaking about men vs boys = 80/90's vs today.
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Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
the east was good when mj played
hense jordan being 2nd all time to kobe in 50+ win teams beatin in the playoffs
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Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
the east was good when mj played
hense jordan being 2nd all time to kobe in 50+ win teams beatin in the playoffs
50 win teams beaten without their best 2 teammates?
Kobe without Pau and Shaq
LeBron without Wade and Bosh
Jordan without Pippen and Rodman
What is it??
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Re: The Reason why The Bulls won 72 games
They were the most stacked team of all time in one of the weakest eras of all time. I'm surprised they didnt win more quite honestly.
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