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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by 24-Inch_Chrome
    That's why I said that Duncan's 2003 was better than any championship run of Kobe's.

    No one wins without help, basketball is a team game, but Duncan didn't have much in '03.

    Had Tony and Manu, no?

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
    Had Tony and Manu, no?
    TP in the 03 playoffs: 15/3/4 on 40%
    Manu: 9/4/3 on 39%



    Wow so much help

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
    Had Tony and Manu, no?
    A second year Tony Parker putting up 14.7 PPG on 40% in the playoffs (2nd in scoring for SA) and a rookie Manu putting up 9.4 on 38%. Duncan averaged 24.7/15.4 on 52.9% through the playoffs and 24.2/17 on 49.5% in the finals.

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by 24-Inch_Chrome
    A second year Tony Parker putting up 14.7 PPG on 40% in the playoffs (2nd in scoring for SA) and a rookie Manu putting up 9.4 on 38%. Duncan averaged 24.7/15.4 on 52.9% through the playoffs and 24.2/17 on 49.5% in the finals.
    5 apg too. Led the team

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
    Had Tony and Manu, no?
    Why not add David Robinson if its just about names, 3 HoF's, GOAT help, no?

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    Why not add David Robinson if its just about names, 3 HoF's, GOAT help, no?
    Also all-stars Steve Smith and Kevin Willis, legendary shooter Steve Kerr, and 20/5/5 player Stephen Jackson


    GOAT help

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    Why not add David Robinson if its just about names, 3 HoF's, GOAT help, no?
    I let him slide on David since he was clearly on the downside of his career, but i think some of you would underrate his defense and rebounding contributed to the Team.

    He averaged 1.3 blks per game with 6.6 reb in 2003. Next to a prime Tim Duncan he wouldn't have to contribute much Offense.

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Hey guys let me guess.. Tony Parker's 15 ppg and Manu's 9/4 is SHIT, NO HELP

    Stephen Jackson's 13/4 is SHIT, NO HELP, D Rob's 18 PER is NO HELP

    but 6/4 Bynum and 9/8 Odom make up 2/3rds of the GOAT front court


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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
    Hey guys let me guess.. Tony Parker's 15 ppg and Manu's 9/4 is SHIT, NO HELP

    Stephen Jackson's 13/4 is SHIT, NO HELP, D Rob's 18 PER is NO HELP

    but 6/4 Bynum and 9/8 Odom make up 2/3rds of the GOAT front court

    Exactly.




    Goat supporting cast.

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
    Hey guys let me guess.. Tony Parker's 15 ppg and Manu's 9/4 is SHIT, NO HELP

    Stephen Jackson's 13/4 is SHIT, NO HELP, D Rob's 18 PER is NO HELP

    but 6/4 Bynum and 9/8 Odom make up 2/3rds of the GOAT front court

    Kobe double standard.

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey4trading
    Hey guys let me guess.. Tony Parker's 15 ppg and Manu's 9/4 is SHIT, NO HELP

    Stephen Jackson's 13/4 is SHIT, NO HELP, D Rob's 18 PER is NO HELP

    but 6/4 Bynum and 9/8 Odom make up 2/3rds of the GOAT front court

    Both were inefficient and untested. Sophomore and rookie players, respectively.

    Stephen Jackson was also inefficient, shooting 41.4% from the field through the playoffs.

    Pau Gasol (16.2/9.6 on 58%, 19.6/11.1 on 53.9%) was Kobe's primary help through the '09-'10 championship runs and he was better by a mile than anyone on the '03 Spurs not named Tim Duncan. I think that David Robinson probably was the second best player on that Spurs team (though it was in limited minutes) and have said nothing to discredit him.

    If you'd like to mention PER without context though, Pau posted PERs of 21.9 and 24, significantly better than anyone not named Tim Duncan on the Spurs. Duncan in '03 had less help than Kobe in '09/'10, that's a fact.

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    see how they try to immediately compare 09 supporting cast to Duncan's 03 instead of addressing the fact that they will call 6/4 Bynum and 9/8 Odom as 2/3rds of the GOAT front-court while at the same time Parker's 15ppg, Manu's 9/4, D Rob's defense and Jackson 13/4 is NO HELP, TERRIBLE CAST

    I'm not saying that Kobe's supporting cast in 09 was worse than Duncans in 03 I'm just pointing out how hilarious it is to see the same posters ITT who prop up Bynum and Odom as being 2/3rds of the GOAT frontcourts sit here and scoff at Parker, Manu, Jax and D Rob's production as being absolute shit..

    6/4 from Bynum helps make up part of the GOAT froncourt, yet Manu's 9/4, Jax 13/4 and Tony's 15ppg is NOT SHIT


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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Quote Originally Posted by leMVP
    Wade is just praising an old foe.

    He deeply knows as all of us, that Kobe never was the best player in that era.

    Yes, he does believe whatever you want.

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    Default Re: Wade - "Kobe is the best player of our era."

    Kobe fans thinks ;

    Kobe > Duncan x5

    As a real ;

    Duncan > Kobe x2



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