Rousey can beat a below average man in a fight...

[plowking]

I honestly do struggle to see how a 5'5 Pacqiao would beat a guy that's 6'3 220. Pacqaio (to my knowledge) isn't any more trained in take downs and grappling etc than his opponent. And I don't see how he would even be able to reach the guy with punches. A 6' guy, ok, fine. But 6'3 is a ten inch difference. The taller guy could just throw keep throwing haymakers til he connects, he could still stand far enough away not to get countered. I just don't see how Manny gets close to him.

Not like that at all, and I'm telling you this as someone who has boxed.

Think of it as someone like Chris Paul playing a 6'8 high schooler. You think the 6'8 guy would be able to back him down all game long, but you know Paul is too savvy, understands the leverages associated with basketball, and will still manage to muscle the kid around.

[dunksby]

I actually had the chance to train against some guys here in Australia competing for belts. I had about 50lbs on the guy, and I could not do shit to him in the ring. Not so much in terms of punching power, and him overwhelming me or anything, but I could not cut off the ring, I could not hit him, and I kept eating straight shots the whole time we were in there. I guess it could be different outside the ring where I would be able to hold, and fight dirty, throw him around and use my superior strength. But these boxers are so incredibly elusive, and when they do hit you, you can feel it. This was just a sparring session too.

I'm not entirely sure how a fight with Pacman against a 6'3, 220lbs athletic, non boxer fight would go, but as someone falling in that category, I'm not sure I'd like my chances too much. Inside the ring, no shot. Outside the ring, both guys would have to be careful, but Pac has years of practicing how to throw a great punch. An athletic 6'3 male has great physical traits, but if you can't throw decent punches, you are at a great disadvantage.

Boxing is an art man, casual fans mostly look at the hands and arms and forget these guys are so quick on their feet. Boxers train as much in throwing and docking as they do on their footwork, boxing is different than MMA and UFC in the sense that brute force on its own doesn't make you great, also the stricter rules obviously.

[NumberSix]

Not like that at all, and I'm telling you this as someone who has boxed.

Think of it as someone like Chris Paul playing a 6'8 high schooler. You think the 6'8 guy would be able to back him down all game long, but you know Paul is too savvy, understands the leverages associated with basketball, and will still manage to muscle the kid around.

It's like Micael Jordan playing 1 on 1 against Shaq. He's just gonna back him down and dunk it every single time.

Sometimes size and strength is just too much to overcome.

Now if we're talking about high school kids or boxers vs non-boxers, ok.... The guy can't be a complete scrub.

[dunksby]

It's like Micael Jordan playing 1 on 1 against Shaq. He's just gonna back him down and dunk it every single time.

Sometimes size and strength is just too much to overcome.

Now if we're talking about high school kids or boxers vs non-boxers, ok.... The guy can't be a complete scrub.

You said below average boxer though?

[ThePhantomCreep]

Manny has a decent shot at outpointing a bad heavyweight.

Keep in mind that Harry Greb (5'8", middleweight) handed future heavyweight champion Gene Tunney his only loss. Skill can overcome size in boxing to a certain extent.

If the fighter is anything above tomato can status, Manny gets crushed.

[NumberSix]

You said below average boxer though?

Yeah, by professional standards. Not the average standard of your local gym.

[dunksby]

Yeah, by professional standards. Not the average standard of your local gym.

And who's that in your Shaq vs Jordan analogy?

[NumberSix]

And who's that in your Shaq vs Jordan analogy?

Obvious, Jordan is more more skilled, smaller guy and Shaq is the lesser skilled, bigger guy.

[dunksby]

Obvious, Jordan is more more skilled, smaller guy and Shaq is the lesser skilled, bigger guy.

So Shaq is a below average basketball player? Man why you gotta say stupid shit all the time?

[plowking]

[Smoke117]

I would literally kill any woman alive if I had the desire to. I'm sick of these MMA junkies thinking MMA can overcome biology.

I would throw that bitch off a 100 foot balcony like she was a phucking rag a muffin.

You sure? You did, afterall, drop out of HS because of acne...

[NumberSix]

So Shaq is a below average basketball player? Man why you gotta say stupid shit all the time?

Less skilled than Jordan =/= below average player


C'mon now.

[dunksby]

Less skilled than Jordan =/= below average player


C'mon now.

Your analogy was basically Manny = Jordan vs Shaq = below average boxer.

[NumberSix]

Your analogy was basically Manny = Jordan vs Shaq = below average boxer.

No it isn't. It's simply size+strength vs skill. You already know that. Stop strawmanning.

[Megabox!]

I'm f*cking done, you guys on ISH kill me