That awkward moment when a anchor calls the shooters actors... twice.

[KevinNYC]

Go back and look at the thread on the shooting.

Even ISH knew one of the shooter's names hours before it was released. Police called it out over the scanner. The employees who worked there knew who it was.

I just did how does it support what you're saying. From what I saw first mention in the thread was at 10pm. Are there earlier mentions?

How does employees who worked there = equal the analyst in a studio on the East Coast knows?

You just made a pretty big leap.

[UK2K]

I just did how does it support what you're saying. From what I saw first mention in the thread was at 10pm. Are there earlier mentions?

How does employees who worked there = equal the analyst in a studio on the East Coast knows?

You just made a pretty big leap.

The name of the female shooter was said over the police scanners early on in the event.

Also, the people working there knew who he was, and knew he was a 'devout Muslim', so the police obviously knew, since I am pretty positive they would have asked for a name a description from people that worked with him.

I didn't mean the news anchors knew they were Muslim, I meant the fact the shooters were Muslim was known long before it was announced to the public.

[AlphaWolf24]

Can someone explain to me...

WHAT THE F@CK IS GOING ON IN HERE????!!!!!!!!!!





[COLOR="White"]( sorry i dont watch alot of news.....mostly sports and illegally streamed movies)[/COLOR]

[UK2K]

No you idiot. Actor simply means one who commits or does an act. The victims were VICTIMS of the act.

Actor
[ak-ter]
noun
1.
a person who acts in stage plays, motion pictures, television broadcasts, etc.
2.
a person who does something; participant.

The victims and police were participants, yes? Or were they not there?

[oh the horror]

Your example is completely irrelevant. Use of words and deduction of meaning comes from context. I could say "I'm gay because my baby was born" and from context, the sense I used gay in would be understandable.

In the example in the OP, the anchor was referring to the 3 ACTORS who were suspected of committing an ACT.

No my point is exactly reverent. My point was simple. It's a funny choice of wording considering most do not talk like that.



I've never in my 34 years heard someone anywhere refer to people in a situation as actors. Obviously there are others who haven't as well because it set off something of interest to them.


I sat back and figured it meant something other than what someone would
Figure the word "actor" for because the anchor uses it twice but I still found it funny because your general population doesn't speak that way. The same way most people do not use "gay" to describe "happy".



Dude you do not walk around telling people you were gay about your baby was born. Stop. You, like the majority would simply say happy

There's no debate here. There are words we use in situations and words that do not generally get used. That's all.



An American generally doesn't describe his trash or garbage as rubbish.

[oh the horror]

What a dumb comparison. Jesus.

It's dumb because you have an ape brain. Try to keep up

[shlver]

No my point is exactly reverent. My point was simple. It's a funny choice of wording considering most do not talk like that.



I've never in my 34 years heard someone anywhere refer to people in a situation as actors. Obviously there are others who haven't as well because it set off something of interest to them.


I sat back and figured it meant something other than what someone would
Figure the word "actor" for because the anchor uses it twice but I still found it funny because your general population doesn't speak that way. The same way most people do not use "gay" to describe "happy".



Dude you do not walk around telling people you were gay about your baby was born. Stop. You, like the majority would simply say happy

There's no debate here. There are words we use in situations and words that do not generally get used. That's all.



An American generally doesn't describe his trash or garbage as rubbish.

It doesn't matter if you haven't encountered it. Plenty of people have and it's a perfectly understandable use of the word.

[Nanners]

I've never in my 34 years heard someone anywhere refer to people in a situation as actors. Obviously there are others who haven't as well because it set off something of interest to them.


I sat back and figured it meant something other than what someone would
Figure the word "actor" for because the anchor uses it twice but I still found it funny because your general population doesn't speak that way. The same way most people do not use "gay" to describe "happy".

A lot of people actually do talk that way, especially in academic or professional contexts. I have heard the word "actor" used in this way many times.

[shlver]

The victims and police were participants, yes? Or were they not there?

Yes the victims and police participated IN THE ACT. Are you in middle school?

[KevinNYC]

The name of the female shooter was said over the police scanners early on in the event.

Also, the people working there knew who he was, and knew he was a 'devout Muslim', so the police obviously knew, since I am pretty positive they would have asked for a name a description from people that worked with him.

I didn't mean the news anchors knew they were Muslim, I meant the fact the shooters were Muslim was known long before it was announced to the public.

Yeah, but you said all that in support of this.

The anchor using the word actor implies he was an actor. Unless he was deliberately going out of his way to not say suspect because the shooter was a Muslim. That, I could see happening.

and it offers no support of this.

[KevinNYC]

A lot of people actually do talk that way, especially in academic or professional contexts. I have heard the word "actor" used in this way many times.

Yeah, and like I said, I think this is the ex-FBI profiler who was speaking. He would be an academic type.

[KevinNYC]

The victims were actors too then, correct? That's what you're saying? The police too? We can call them all actors and nobody would think twice.

The nuanced meaning in this case is the person who sets things in motion

This is why Benjamin Franklin was a major actor in many of the events leading up to the founding of our nation, but some random revolutionary war soldier would not be described that way.

[dude77]

when the fk has anyone on tv .. reporter, analyst yada yada referred to a gunman/suspect/killer as 'actor' .. I've never seen anyone refer to a gunman/suspect/killer as 'actor' .. they've always referred to them as gunman/suspect/killer .. can anyone point to other examples where a gunman/suspect/killer has been referred to as an actor by a reporter/analyst on tv ??

[KevinNYC]

when the fk has anyone on tv .. reporter, analyst yada yada referred to a gunman/suspect/killer as 'actor' .. I've never seen anyone refer to a gunman/suspect/killer as 'actor' .. they've always referred to them as gunman/suspect/killer .. can anyone point to other examples where a gunman/suspect/killer has been referred to as an actor by a reporter/analyst on tv ??

Even if that is true. What does it matter?

[UK2K]

Yeah, but you said all that in support of this.

and it offers no support of this.

And I didn't intend to provide any.

Unless he was deliberately going out of his way to not say suspect because the shooter was a Muslim.

Maybe you read it in a different tone of frame of mind, but I never insinuated they did know and didn't say it.

When you asked about when 'we' (as in people who were following the situation) knew, I pointed out that the shooters name was said over the police scanner hours before it was announced.