Facebook to monitor hate speech, ok with terrorism

[Jameerthefear]

Hey hey....any of you guys ever heard of a Tor browser? It's a free download, takes about 5 minutes. How about a little black box to scramble your IP for $99? How about the concept of using someone else's name on Facebook? Do you really think allowing terrorism supporters to conspire on Facebook makes them easier to identify? All it does is allow them to openly spread their propaganda, recruit and organize.

>thinking tor is safe in 2015
>thinking everyone knows how to scramble their IP

put the memes away

[MMKM]

Jesus Christ if one more person says IP tracking....like it isn't the easiest thing in the world in 2015 to scramble your IP. By itself, without any additional hardware Tor is 100% unbreakable. It cannot be unscrambled you can surf the web with complete anonymity. It would be EASY for a terror cell to have a Facebook group and communicate with zero chance of ever being identified. You guys don't get it.

[Akrazotile]

Hey hey....any of you guys ever heard of a Tor browser? It's a free download, takes about 5 minutes. How about a little black box to scramble your IP for $99? How about the concept of using someone else's name on Facebook? Do you really think allowing terrorism supporters to conspire on Facebook makes them easier to identify? All it does is allow them to openly spread their propaganda, recruit and organize.

Im sure the govt does have ways of keeping tabs on these people. Plus, sometimes these idiots are actually dumb enough to post "hey, cant wait to attack ____ tomorrow!" IMO its better for everyone to see whats going on with these people than to have them operating more secretly than they alrdy do.

But I still agree with you on the fact that facebook's witch hunting for anti-islam comments is absolutely

[TonyMontana]

I know this is a popular idea in some circles but IMO it really misses the point. The medias first and foremost concern is making money as a business. They dont care who gets torn down or propped up in that regard.

The logistics of covering stories on minority groups are different from those of the dominant group. The public itself sees minorities as vulnerable, disadvantaged, special needs, etc. and are much more wary of the "big bad media establishment" picking on them. Whereas how they cover a story about majority groups is not seen as important, because the public perception really does not jeopardize dominant majorities regardless.

They simply have to be more delicate, more lopsided, and more deceptive when covering minority issues or else theyll face consumer backlash. Liberals and minorities are a huge consumer segment. These people dont want honest journalism, they want protective journalism. People in the media have bills to pay, they have to make their customers happy.

Tell that to the whites in South Africa who are "minorities".

Mainstream media and newspapers take the same anti-white stance, no matter whether whites are a majority or minority.

[MMKM]

>thinking tor is safe in 2015
>thinking everyone knows how to scramble their IP

put the memes away

Terrorists go online and learn how to make bombs from scratch. You don't think they can figure out how to scramble an IP?

There isn't a face palm big enough

[Jameerthefear]

Terrorists go online and learn how to make bombs from scratch. You don't think they can figure out how to scramble an IP?

There isn't a face palm big enough

you know how shit usually gets taken down? human error. ONE mistake can take a whole group down. i don't trust tor 100%. you have to think it, somehow, has been compromised. if you run any plugin, like javascript etc. your ass is grass. there's even code on sites that can reveal u these days.
if facebook is taken down, guess what, they'll go somewhere else.

[Akrazotile]

Tell that to the whites in South Africa who are "minorities".

Mainstream media and newspapers take the same anti-white stance, no matter whether whites are a majority or minority.

Well, I meant a minority share of power/wealth.

I agree about the blatant inconsistency in how things are covered. But I disagree about it being a specific agenda that is being pushed, rather than simply a reaction to the dynamics of public capriciousness.

[MMKM]

you know how shit usually gets taken down? human error. ONE mistake can take a whole group down. i don't trust tor 100%. you have to think it, somehow, has been compromised. if you run any plugin, like javascript etc. your ass is grass. there's even code on sites that can reveal u these days.
if facebook is taken down, guess what, they'll go somewhere else.

Let's say hypothetically that we take them off all major social media platforms. Good or bad for the war on terror and why?

One of the assumptions I think everyone is making, and wrongly so is that we are monitoring all of the social media activity so tightly that if someone slips up or makes a mistake, we will catch it. That is absolutely false. The former head of the FBI said this week that the FBI and CIA are heavily under staffed, and that Facebook and Amazon have far better tracking capabilities for user data than the FBI or CIA. We all assume that our government is all knowing and all seeing. That couldn't be farther from reality. Social media platforms are so massive, the chances are that terror groups using them will conspire freely and get away with it. It empowers them more than it trips them up.

[fiddy]

you know how shit usually gets taken down? human error. ONE mistake can take a whole group down. i don't trust tor 100%. you have to think it, somehow, has been compromised. if you run any plugin, like javascript etc. your ass is grass. there's even code on sites that can reveal u these days.
if facebook is taken down, guess what, they'll go somewhere else.

Why is your goofy ass using tor in the first place?

Let's say hypothetically that we take them off all major social media platforms. Good or bad for the war on terror and why?

One of the assumptions I think everyone is making, and wrongly so is that we are monitoring all of the social media activity so tightly that if someone slips up or makes a mistake, we will catch it. That is absolutely false. The former head of the FBI said this week that the FBI and CIA are heavily under staffed, and that Facebook and Amazon have far better tracking capabilities for user data than the FBI or CIA. We all assume that our government is all knowing and all seeing. That couldn't be farther from reality. Social media platforms are so massive, the chances are that terror groups using them will conspire freely and get away with it. It empowers them more than it trips them up.

What about the NSA?

[MMKM]

Why is your goofy ass using tor in the first place?


What about the NSA?

Goes for them too, everyone here has a men in black delusion about our government. We are miserably under staffed and the private sector has better technology. That's why this whole argument about tracking all of the terrorists on social media falls on its face. Social media is 10x as big as our capability to monitor it.

[fiddy]

Goes for them too, everyone here has a men in black delusion about our government. We are miserably under staffed and the private sector has better technology. That's why this whole argument about tracking all of the terrorists on social media falls on its face. Social media is 10x as big as our capability to monitor it.

I think you're underestimating them, they obviously have the capacity to mass spy on lots of people.

[MMKM]

I think you're underestimating them, they obviously have the capacity to mass spy on lots of people.

No they don't. In fact the department of defense has 74 employees who are on the terror watch list. They can't even keep their own house clean. We overestimate our intelligence agencies greatly

[fiddy]

No they don't. In fact the department of defense has 74 employees who are on the terror watch list. They can't even keep their own house clean. We overestimate our intelligence agencies greatly

http://gizmodo.com/the-nsa-is-collec...amer-511565570

[Akrazotile]

No they don't. In fact the department of defense has 74 employees who are on the terror watch list. They can't even keep their own house clean. We overestimate our intelligence agencies greatly

[MMKM]

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...-list-n2089621

Yeah I really believe we can monitor terror activity on every major social media platform DOD can't even monitor their own employees. But sure, let the terrorists congregate on Facebook that's a great idea