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    "FOR the 20 actors nominated for an Oscar all to be white could at best be seen as a surprise. For that to be true two years running is, to many, a scandal. While there will be no empty seats at the 88th Academy Awards ceremony on February 28th—live television does not permit such things—there may be a lot of missing faces. Confronted with what is seen as a “whitewash”, many prominent black Americans are saying they will boycott the ceremony.
    In fact, as our analysis of film casts and awards shows, the number of black actors winning Oscars in this century has been pretty much in line with the size of America's overall black population. But this does not mean Hollywood has no problems of prejudice. As the data show, it clearly does.


    The issue has come to a head because over the past two years some films with a particular emotional resonance were passed over. The original “Rocky” (1976) won three Oscars, and Sylvester Stallone was nominated (though he did not win) for both acting and writing. Critics and fans alike have heaped praise on 2015's new addition to the Rocky franchise, “Creed”, which sees a black fighter as the hero. But the star and the black director, Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler, will have to make do with fans' appreciation and more than $100m at the box office: the film's only nomination went to Mr Stallone, this time for Best Supporting Actor. “Straight Outta Compton”, a hit film about a black hip-hop group with a black director and producer, was nominated only for its screenplay, the writers of which were white. “Beasts of No Nation” delighted our reviewer, and fans of its star, Idris Elba, hope he will be the next James Bond. It also brought a horrifying phenomenon, child soldiering in Africa, to Western audiences. But the Academy ignored it. All this happens in the shadow of last year's nominations, in which “Selma”, a film about the civil-rights movement which our reviewer found “remarkable”, was nominated but did not win Best Picture, as many thought it should. Neither its director, Ava DuVernay, nor its star, David Oyelowo, were recognised by the academy.
    Fingers are pointing at the Academy’s 6,000-odd voting members, 94% of whom are white. Spike Lee, whose “Do The Right Thing” is considered one of the great movies not to have won an Oscar, has lamented “another all-white ballot”; Don Cheadle, who got a Best Actor nomination in 2004 for “Hotel Rwanda”, has joked dryly about parking cars at the event. It is possible that the only black actor onstage will be Chris Rock, who is hosting. He has already said that the Oscars seem to have become a white equivalent of the Black Entertainment Television awards.
    These years are far from the first whitewashing in Oscars history: no actors from ethnic minorities were nominated in 1995 or 1997, or in an extraordinary streak between 1975 and 1980. Throughout the 20th century, 95% of Oscar nominations went to white film stars. It is an embarrassing anachronism that the prevalence of white Academy electors has been allowed to continue into the 21st century, a trend that the Academy's (black) president, Cheryl Boone Isaacs, has vowed to end.
    Could the “whiteout” be a statistical glitch? If the data were random, such a glitch would be hugely unlikely. A 2013 survey of the Screen Actors Guild (SAG), an American union for film performers, suggests that 70% of its members are white. If all of the Guild’s members were equally likely to receive Oscar nominations, regardless of race, then over a two-year period 28 out of 40 nominations would be of white actors. The chances of no single person of colour being nominated across two ceremonies would be exceptionally small—even during a 15-year span, the odds of seeing at least one sequence of back-to-back whiteouts are around one in 100,000.
    Of course the data are not random. Yet, despite the 2015-2016 whiteout, an analysis of Oscar selections since 2000 suggests that the imbalances are industry-wide, not primarily to do with Academy voters. And they affect all ethnic minorities. Oscar nominations have not dramatically under-represented black actors. Instead, they have greatly over-represented white ones. Blacks are 12.6% of the American population, and 10% of Oscar nominations since 2000 have gone to black actors. But just 3% of nominations have gone to their Hispanic peers (16% of the population), 1% to those with Asian backgrounds, and 2% to those of other heritage (see chart).
    Black actors get speaking roles in rough proportion to their percentage of America’s population, according to a study of 600 top films from 2007-2013 at the Annenberg Center for Communication and Journalism. (See “film roles” in the chart above.) Again, Latinos and Asians do much worse. But blacks are under-represented in the roles that count for the Oscars, getting just 9% of the top roles since 2000, according to our own analysis. (We define “top roles” as the top three names on the cast-list on IMDb, an online film database, in films with a rating of 7.5 or greater, an American box-office gross of at least $10m, and which were neither animated nor in a foreign language.)
    The numbers indicate that, whereas the film industry most certainly fails to represent America’s diversity, the whitewashing occurs not behind the closed doors of the Academy, but in drama schools (shown in the SAG membership) and casting offices. For most of the past 15 years, the Academy has largely judged what has been put in front of them: minority actors land 15% of top roles, 15% of nominations and 17% of wins. Once up for top roles, black actors do well, converting 9% of top roles into 10% of best-actor nominations and 15% of the coveted golden statuettes, a bit above their share of the general population.
    The view behind the scenes is perhaps more revealing. Blacks really are much more under-represented in the director’s chair, where they account for 6% of directors of the top 600 films, according to the Annenberg study. Black women are nearly nonexistent there (two of the 600, Ms DuVernay being one). These are the numbers that critics of Hollywood should be most concerned about, along with the dearth of top roles for Hispanic and Asian actors. Best Actor nominations and wins—in which black actors have done decently, 2015 and 2016 excepted—seem to be the wrong target.
    If consumers want their films to reflect the society in which they live—as they do their parliaments and executive boards—it is these areas that must see improvement. And film-goers may have more power to provoke that change than they realise. Hispanic Americans buy 25% of the nation’s cinema tickets. If they, like the actors tweeting with the #OscarsSoWhite, are sick of a whitewashed Hollywood, then Hollywood would be wise to listen.

    Correction: This piece has been updated. We originally said that “Selma” had received no Oscar nominations; it was nominated for, but did not win, Best Picture. It did win Best Original Song. Apologies."


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    Default Re: #TheOscarsAreTooWhite MTV

    #SoWhat

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    Finally some objective reality to this

    But the onus shouldn't be on anyone for this. It's an industry. It is run by corporations. They shouldn't feel obliged to have to filter their projects with diversity in mind. That's encroaching on free market principles. The onus is on wealthy minorities to fund and support development of corporations and projects that are focused on their own racial bias.

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    Who were the black Actors, and Directors deserving of a spot? Who would you switch out?

    Not being sarcastic, haven't caught many films recently

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    Quote Originally Posted by jongib369
    Who were the black Actors, and Directors deserving of a spot? Who would you switch out?

    Not being sarcastic, haven't caught many films recently
    The problem is that black people are rarely sought out for great dramatic roles unless the role requires them being black (e.g., a slave, portraying a historic figure). This year there weren't many worth mentioning, but that is more of a big picture film industry issue than the Oscars.

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    wow, American blacks whining about being underrepresented while actually being overrepresented: big surprise .

    I don't get why Americans are so accommodating to race hustlers; it's pretty pathetic. The endless race narrative got tiresome to most people a long time ago already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dresta
    wow, American blacks whining about being underrepresented while actually being overrepresented: big surprise .

    I don't get why Americans are so accommodating to race hustlers; it's pretty pathetic. The endless race narrative got tiresome to most people a long time ago already.
    Not in the nomination department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApexPredator
    Not in the nomination department.
    What's the difference in % there, would you say?

    1%? 2%?

    Fact is, blacks are nominated slightly less, but win almost twice as much.

    Boo hoo.

    Notice how Asians aren't bitching? They're the ones getting screwed. Do they care? I really doubt it. Instead, they just work to get better. Blacks bitch and complain instead.

    Thats why Asians are where they are, and blacks are still living in ghettos all these years later.

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    ^I am not surprised by your response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApexPredator
    ^I am not surprised by your response.
    Because what I said is obvious?

    You can agree, you know, it's okay. Nobody is going to yell at you.

    For one year, let's not bitch about something, and let's try instead to just better ourselves so we don't need special help. Let's try that and see what happens. Who knows, maybe blacks as a community can pull themselves out of the shitter with a can-do attitude and a little bit of effort.

    As I've said numerous times on here, I'd be embarrassed if someone told me I wasn't good enough, and instead needing special consideration to compete on the same playing field as everyone else.

    But that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmybball
    The problem is that black people are rarely sought out for great dramatic roles unless the role requires them being black (e.g., a slave, portraying a historic figure). This year there weren't many worth mentioning, but that is more of a big picture film industry issue than the Oscars.
    Yeah I think this is the real problem. Aside from the established guys like Denzel and Smith, and to some extent Forrester and Cheadle, no one gets the normal guy roles, just roles that are meant to be for black guys.

    I think we're seeing a little bit of a shift in TV. I didn't think about it before but the cast of Flash for example is very mixed and done so in a way that's not in your face. Joe was cast well and because of that kid Flash will basically be a black kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10
    Yeah I think this is the real problem. Aside from the established guys like Denzel and Smith, and to some extent Forrester and Cheadle, no one gets the normal guy roles, just roles that are meant to be for black guys.

    I think we're seeing a little bit of a shift in TV. I didn't think about it before but the cast of Flash for example is very mixed and done so in a way that's not in your face. Joe was cast well and because of that kid Flash will basically be a black kid.
    This is part of the reason I like the new Star Wars movie actually.

    The woman isn't a damsel in distress, and the black guy didn't die within the first half hour

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    award shows are so damn vapid and self serving. nothing more than a celebrity circle jerk. the oscars have always been a white thing. not sure why the blacks or any other race want approval from whitey so bad. you shouldn't let a statue determine your success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10
    Yeah I think this is the real problem. Aside from the established guys like Denzel and Smith, and to some extent Forrester and Cheadle, no one gets the normal guy roles, just roles that are meant to be for black guys.

    I think we're seeing a little bit of a shift in TV. I didn't think about it before but the cast of Flash for example is very mixed and done so in a way that's not in your face. Joe was cast well and because of that kid Flash will basically be a black kid.
    With the exception of the Chief of police who announced for no reason in his 1st or 2nd scene that he is married to a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCREWstonRockets
    award shows are so damn vapid and self serving. nothing more than a celebrity circle jerk. the oscars have always been a white thing. not sure why the blacks or any other race want approval from whitey so bad. you shouldn't let a statue determine your success.

    Exactly. Oscars are meaningless trite. The black people who are clamoring for more representation at the Oscars instead of focusing on the probs in their own communities are pretty pathetic.

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