Ingram vs. Simmons - is Simmons still a clear #1?

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Ingram played in a tougher division and played against better competition. Better teammates, better coaching, and solid stats for a guy his age at the size/weight he is on a Duke team. 16/7/2.

LSU has very sub par coaching and very average D1 players besides Simmons. He had a monster season but a lot of his highlights are against no name D1 schools. He has no jumpshot whatsoever. His attitude and response to his 1.8 GPA shows immaturity. He is not as athletic as some of these scouts put him out to be. He's got above average NBA athleticism but honestly I don't see how he's a clear #1 unless he had 2003 LeBron out of this world athleticism.

[buddha]

Ingram's frame is way too small. the physicality in the NBA will kill him.

i'd draft Buddy Hield over him.

[Cocaine80s]

Ulis is going #1 imo

[Nick Young]

Simmons must be picked exactly where the Lakers need him to be picked.

[FreezingTsmoove]

People said Jabari parker had average athleticism and he looks like a gazelle out there. People dont realize how athletic average nba athleticism is

And you said it yourself he has above average athleticism

[Human Error]

If anything, Simmons has solidified himself as a non top pick. One NBA executive got him right I think, he is more than in a mold of Even Turner and Boris Diaw rather than Lebron's or Magic Johnson's. There is also a risk Ingram is more of Austin Daye rather than Durant, but I would select Ingram if I have a top pick. We lack a truly great prospect like Karl Anthony Towns in this draft.

[pastis]

does simmons has an above average midrange/threepoint game? this is sine-qua-non for succes in todays league.

[Cocaine80s]

does simmons has an above average midrange/threepoint game? this is sine-qua-non for succes in todays league.

On a scale of 1-10 he'd be about a -4

[GreatHILL]

Simmons is a joke!

[IcanzIIravor]

This is fcking pathetic

He needs professional help at this point.

[Im Still Ballin]

He needs professional help at this point.

Perth lads or what bro

[plowking]

Buddy Hield>Ingram.

[Ca$H]

Ingram played in a tougher division and played against better competition. Better teammates, better coaching, and solid stats for a guy his age at the size/weight he is on a Duke team. 16/7/2.

LSU has very sub par coaching and very average D1 players besides Simmons. He had a monster season but a lot of his highlights are against no name D1 schools. He has no jumpshot whatsoever. His attitude and response to his 1.8 GPA shows immaturity. He is not as athletic as some of these scouts put him out to be. He's got above average NBA athleticism but honestly I don't see how he's a clear #1 unless he had 2003 LeBron out of this world athleticism.

Ingram is a better fit for the Sixers and Lakers. Ingram can play SG or SF. IMO Simmons is a PF in the modern NBA.

Schr

[Fallen Angel]

If Simmons get drafted to a team with an idiot coach and no system of offense then he's bound to fail, sadly you look at the lottery teams and most of them are not well coached. Celtics are his best chance at success.

[Ca$H]

This is fcking pathetic

He presents a very good argument but that is way too much time/effort spent on a message board post. At least post it as a bleacher report article.