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I Run NY.
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
So much of this is huge hyperbole.
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NBA Superstar
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
NSA.
Drones.
Healthcare is still a joke compared to similar developed countries.
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Obama promissed alot, but couldn't keep alot of it.
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Banned
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
killed Osama Bin Laden
strengthened foreign affairs in the middle east.
established a universal health care system
recovered from a recession
ending oppression of gay people
sparked the electric car revolution
Deferred action. Not the Dream Act but it was still a pretty big step for immigration
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An uglier Lamar Doom
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
Originally Posted by niko
So much of this is huge hyperbole.
The healthcare definitely is. Not that the ACA hasnt helped people, but because its nowhere near a universal healthcare system.
Also, it is hilarious that almost every component of it polls well above 50% approval (kids on parent insurance till 26, preexisting conditions, etc), but when it is polled as a whole (obamacare) it is well under 50%. Talk about hype and spin
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Good college starter
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
killed Osama Bin Laden
strengthened foreign affairs in the middle east.
established a universal health care system
recovered from a recession
ending oppression of gay people
sparked the electric car revolution
LOL AT THE BOLDED...LOL
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Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
killed Osama Bin Laden
strengthened foreign affairs in the middle east.
established a universal health care system
recovered from a recession
ending oppression of gay people
sparked the electric car revolution
only the 2 bolded items are even remotely true.
killing osama bin laden is totally true, but its significance is exaggerated. Al qaeda is decentralized, its impossible to decapitate.
Obama has allowed gays to serve openly in the military this is true. Also he took this position only because of gay donors to his campaigns and the fact that overall national polls have supported this. by the time he supported this, it wasn't a courageous thing to do.
but look at ISH, gays are still hated in certain segments of this country.
strengthened foreign affairs in the middle east.
WTF are you talking about?
established a universal health care system
more accurately forced people to buy private insurance
The affordable care act (obamacare) doesn't proved single payer, or a government health insurance option. This plan is largely a rip off of Mitt Romney's plan when he was governor of Massachusetts. I believe Obama got the same guy to write his plan that worked on Romney's
Romney's plan was largely based on the heritage foundations (conservative think tank) mandates, meant to eliminate the free rider problem. It forces people to buy insurance. The very poor have medicaid, its those who used to be too wealthy to qualify for medicaid and too poor to buy private insurance that are now mandated to buy insurance.
recovered from a recession
its been more than 5 years since the start. This probably would have happened no matter what. also a full recovery is an exaggeration
sparked the electric car revolution
gross exaggeration, didn't even start under him, and this technology evolved largely independent from government action
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454 Dumper
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
Originally Posted by Overdrive
NSA.
Drones.
Healthcare is still a joke compared to similar developed countries.
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Obama promissed alot, but couldn't keep alot of it.
He's not a dictator. He can't just do anything he wants nor promised due to the system of checks and balances. NSA was tapping phones before he came to office, and he didn't invent drone strikes neither.
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Good college starter
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
He's not a dictator. He can't just do anything he wants nor promised due to the system of checks and balances. NSA was tapping phones before he came to office, and he didn't invent drone strikes neither.
He's not talking about drone strikes...he's talking about drones flying over the USA, or should I say Surveillance States of America.
...Not to even get into the drone strikes on American citizens in foreign countries. I'm going to resist this topic the best I can. Must...not...fully engage this conversation.
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Smile, you're on ISH
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
That's pretty bad when almost 6 years pass, and these are the best things someone can think of(even being pretty inaccurate on most cases).
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College superstar
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
Originally Posted by boozehound
The healthcare definitely is. Not that the ACA hasnt helped people, but because its nowhere near a universal healthcare system.
Also, it is hilarious that almost every component of it polls well above 50% approval (kids on parent insurance till 26, preexisting conditions, etc), but when it is polled as a whole (obamacare) it is well under 50%. Talk about hype and spin
its not universal healthcare but you gotta take baby steps. ACHA is a godsend for small businesses and the self insured. Oct 1 the new insurance marketplace is open for business and I can actually get some AFFORDABLE quality health insurance!!
F*CK YEAH!!!!!!!
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#Trump4Treason
Re: In Obamas 2 terms, the United States have.
Originally Posted by MavsSuperFan
gross exaggeration, didn't even start under him, and this technology evolved largely independent from government action
first off, obamas stance has always been investing in alternative energy. he has not went ape shit drilling for oil, even though everyone shitted on him to do so because of high gas prices. he knew if the gas prices were steadily high, that people would have to convert to a better alternative. he set new standards for car fuel efficiency as well. He has also given energy grants to tesla and fisker karma. a bailout for GM which owns chevy who made the chevy volt, the first electric production car.
and about Tesla, if you didnt know, the government loaned them 1 billion dollars, they have already paid most of it back, and their company is booming. they are the leaders of electric car manufacturing, and in a decade will be the biggest car export out of any country. Tesla will be the leading provider of electric vehicles for the world, and america will benefit from their success, all due to the government under the obama administration giving them a jumpstart
Last edited by nathanjizzle; 08-13-2013 at 03:29 PM.
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