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    The only solutions for healthcare are curing and preventing disease, and limiting catastrophic injuries.

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    Through government funding and organization America was able to win a world war in 6 years, and put a man on the moon in 9, so I'd like to think we could tackle these issues regarding healthcare and infrastructure if there were actual diligence.

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    and this is why we need Bernie Sanders as President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaTesla
    1. The Soviets "won" World War 2. The United States was the Robin to their Batman.

    2. The United States (and the Soviets for that matter) only joined the war in 1941. Meaning they won it in four years not six.
    So a socialist communist nation got the job done. Lol.

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    And yet the cost of two world wars and the Cold War that followed is exactly what this thread is complaining about. Without these wars America isn't an imperial Empire, and it doesn't spend anything like as much on its military.

    Once you let loose the monster you can't put it back. It's why Pandora's Box is such a remarkable piece of mythology, and attests to how much truth there is in such things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dresta
    And yet the cost of two world wars and the Cold War that followed is exactly what this thread is complaining about. Without these wars America isn't an imperial Empire, and it doesn't spend anything like as much on its military.

    Once you let loose the monster you can't put it back. It's why Pandora's Box is such a remarkable piece of mythology, and attests to how much truth there is in such things.
    Do you think if America spent as much money, and effort on say curing a disease or advancing energy technology it could "conquer" it like they have conquered the world through it's military means? Or is that opening up Pandora's Box as well?

    Also do you believe an overall solution to lowering healthcare costs would be to prevent and cure disease while advancing technologies that limit catastrophic injuries such as mag lev trains and driverless vehicles? If you do, then what would be the most efficient way to achieve this? Complete deregulation letting the private sector have total control and freedom to handle it, or public mass works projects organized like the Apollo Program and the war effort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Young
    China is patient. The minute we do that, the very second we aren't able to stop them is when they will make all the moves they've been dying to make for decades now that the American military presence all over the world has prevented.
    Yeah, because they're looking to be the 2nd coming of the Mongol Empire.

    Retard.

    China's history is that of isolationism. Their military buildup is not one that is designed to be projected all over the world. They only care about controlling their own backyard. Any anti-western sentiment they still harbor today is the result of what happened in the late 19th and early 20th centuries when basically all of the Western powers were busy carving out what they could from China when the Qing Dynasty was in its death throes and their new republic was too weak and corrupt to do anything.

    They saw what happened to the USSR. They see how retarded the N Koreans are for spending every penny they have on their military while their civilians starve. They saw how the US pissed away 2T dollars invading Iraq all for basically nothing.

    In terms of land grabbing, the worst you'll see out of them is claiming uninhabited islands in the E and S China seas while telling Japan, Taiwan, Phillipines, and Vietnam to go fcuk themselves.
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    Default Re: Why does america spend so much money in military....

    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaTesla
    1. The Soviets "won" World War 2. The United States was the Robin to their Batman.

    2. The United States (and the Soviets for that matter) only joined the war in 1941. Meaning they won it in four years not six.
    USA wasn't even a robin in WW2, they did close to nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaTesla
    1. The Soviets "won" World War 2. The United States was the Robin to their Batman.

    2. The United States (and the Soviets for that matter) only joined the war in 1941. Meaning they won it in four years not six.
    I disagree on this slightly. I'd say it was a tie with the Soviet Union and USA. You don't get the win without them both. Hitler's obsession with Russia and Russian obstinacy saved Britain long enough for the USA to get involved fully and Japan's fight for dominance of the Pacific with the USA fully kept them from helping Germany squeeze the Soviet Union from east to west. It took both to beat the Axis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaTesla
    No.

    *80% of German soldiers were on the Eastern Front

    *80% of German casualties came against the Soviets and 15% against the combined forces of the US, Britain and France.
    German Losses

    Eastern Front:
    1.1m - Killed
    1.0m - Missing or Captured
    3.5m - Wounded or SICK

    Russia didn't beat the Germans, their winter did. Fact. Period. End of story.

    With the help fo $11 billion dollars worth of lend-lease aid from the US.

    In total, the U.S. deliveries through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[33] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[34] 11,400 aircraft (4,719 of which were Bell P-39 Airacobras)[35] and 1.75 million tons of food.[36]

    Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US. For comparison, a total of 22 million tons landed in Europe to supply American forces from January 1942 to May 1945. It has been estimated that American deliveries to the USSR through the Persian Corridor alone were sufficient, by US Army standards, to maintain sixty combat divisions in the line.[37][38]
    We supplied them with as much shit as we supplied to our own military. Not to mention we gave Britain 4 times as much as that. More or less, the US was supplying every allied country with their own military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaTesla
    1. Your military didn't do sh(i)te except pick off the crumbs the Russians left behind.
    You mean the crumbs the Russian winter left behind? I keep hearing Russian, but I think we mean Russian winter.

    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaTesla
    2. You're right that your financed the Allies. What you forget is that you also sold weapons to Mussolini's Italy and Hitlers Germany up until Pear Harbor (As well as Francos fascists during the Spanish Civil War). Great little money going scheme you had going. Yall were too scared to even enter Europe until 1944.......to busy fighting over coconuts with the Japanese and leaving the real fighting to the Russians.
    Thankfully, Russia was able to secure a cease-fire with Japan so that they could focus on Germany alone, because had they not been able to transfer nearly all of their divisions from the East to the West (thus allowing Japan to concentrate solely on the US, which was Hitler's hope and plan all along), they'd have been ****ed.

    Phew. Good move on their part. If they hadn't, they would have, without a doubt, lost Moscow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdreason
    Because when the World Economy collapses, and eventually it will, the U.S. will be able to take whatever they want, from whomever they want. That's the benefit of having tactical nukes pointed at every Country in the World.

    I'm not saying I agree with Military spending, but it's pretty obvious the U.S. is positioning itself for the next World War.
    Is this really what the American people believe?

    Holy shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by navy
    Free healthcare doesnt exist and let's be honest, the united states military budget is unsustainable. The funny thing is that we could cut our budget and still be just as strong.
    It exists in Norway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing
    How do you have this insider information? Are you a spy??
    Doesnt make it any less true.. You are naive as shit if you dont think America has weapons of mass destruction

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBballer
    You can hate Trump but he makes a good point that we are defending the rest of the world.

    Germany, Japan, Italy, Denmark etc are spending 1-2% of their GDP on their military defense while the United States spends 3.5% of their GDP on military defense. Time to let the rest of the world fend for themselves especially these socialist European countries that are essentially receiving free protection allowing these countries to spend a larger portion of their GDP in terms of social services for their citizens.



    Infrastructure sure but we already are near the top in the world in terms of education per student and it hasn't gotten us much.



    Now I'm not sure what the answer is to improving education but I don't think throwing more money at the problem will fix the issue.

    What exactly are you protecting us from? The only european country that have needed military help the last 10 years is Ukraine. How did that work out?


    Protecting Europe lol. America and their greed is the reason for the refugee crisis

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